Hi all,

My dad and I worked up a simple plug and play harness to activate the rear fogs on our trucks. This would take you 10 minutes tops to plug in, and it would use the existing trailer plug. There is NO cutting/modifications to the vehicle needed.

Would you guys be interested in the harnesses if we made up a batch of say....10 or 15 of them? They are somewhat time consuming to make, since everything we do is "better than factory" as far as loom, weatherproofing, soldering of plugs, etc. My dad is a technician with N.B.C. Broadcasting and does this type of work.

What would something like this sell for? We're not trying to rip anyone off, just making sure it would be worth the time and effort.

****EDIT: Added pictures. They function as STOP and TURN SIGNALS. When applying the brake, and activating a left or right turn signal, they flash! Wicked cool and ADDED SAFETY at night.

This is what they look like at night while just applying the brake.
http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-2.jpg


Braking while backing up. ###For those of you with a 2007 with backup camera, these lights brighten the view as well if you lightly hold the brake while backing up! BONUS! XD
http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-1.jpg

Hi all,

My dad and I worked up a simple plug and play harness to activate the rear fogs on our trucks. This would take you 10 minutes tops to plug in, and it would use the existing trailer plug. There is NO cutting/modifications to the vehicle needed.

Would you guys be interested in the harnesses if we made up a batch of say....10 or 15 of them? They are somewhat time consuming to make, since everything we do is "better than factory" as far as loom, weatherproofing, soldering of plugs, etc. My dad is a technician with N.B.C. Broadcasting and does this type of work.

What would something like this sell for? We're not trying to rip anyone off, just making sure it would be worth the time and effort.
I'd be in if the price was right!!

I'd definitley be in for it.

What would you guys say something like this should sell for? We honestly have no clue. To do a run of 10 harnesses, the cost for materials alone would roughly be $200 from my calculations.

Maybe around 30-40 bucks. Anything more than that might be pushin it. Go for it. Figure you can make a C-note or more per 10 that you make.

i'd spend 30-40 dollars for plug & play.

just for reference, i bought a trailer harness for my wrangler from jeep & it cost $37.75.

http://www.jeepsareus.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/trailerwiring2.jpg

I"m in for $40-$50

interested if you can ship to Canada...

i'm assuming it's probably a single filament bulb since it's a fog lamp. will the lights only come on when braking & when using the turn signals & stay off the rest of the time?

I have a dumb question. I'm always inside the GC so I don't know what these lights look like. What do they do normally?

definitely interested, but would like to know when they would be on? ex. turn signal, braking, running lights?

I have a dumb question. I'm always inside the GC so I don't know what these lights look like. What do they do normally?
They normally dont do anything. They are in the rear lower bumper. The are used for the Euro version Srt8's.

ON the non-export models, the lamps do absolutley nothing. They are there, and ready for action, but aren't connected.

sound a little steep but then I don't have to think so I'm in up to 50.00

yeah you would have to keep it under $50, unless it was offered by GSM in which case it could sell for $199.95.
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How are they going to be wired? As brake and turn signals?

ON the non-export models, the lamps do absolutley nothing. They are there, and ready for action, but aren't connected.
They put lights on that don't do any lighting? As Carlos Mencia says: "Dee, Dee Dee".

I'm down - keep us posted.

Keep it around $30.00, a reasonable fair price. I'm all over it.:D

Well, there certainly seems to be enough interest! We are still crunching the numbers, and sorting out assembly line procedures to produce around 25 harnesses. Here are pictures of them functioning at night for reference.

They function as STOP lights, and TURN SIGNALS. When you hold down the brake, and activate either left or right turn signal, they flash as well! They look FANTASTIC and this is the ONLY plug and play harness that exists.

We utilize Factory OEM equipment plugs as well. Fully sealed and weather protected. If you can plug a toaster into a wall, you can do this mod!

http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-1.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-2.jpg

I'm In for sure!!!:cool:

so these two lights on the bumper do not normally turn on with the lights? im confused, cuz ive never stood behind my car at night..lol..call me crazy.

Count me in. Thank You

You guys have to take into account it's going to cost $20 JUST for materials, than shipping + the time to make them. Shipping and COST of materials alone will be around $30.

I'd say $50 shipped to the lower 48.

Hi all,

My dad and I worked up a simple plug and play harness to activate the rear fogs on our trucks. This would take you 10 minutes tops to plug in, and it would use the existing trailer plug. There is NO cutting/modifications to the vehicle needed.

Would you guys be interested in the harnesses if we made up a batch of say....10 or 15 of them? They are somewhat time consuming to make, since everything we do is "better than factory" as far as loom, weatherproofing, soldering of plugs, etc. My dad is a technician with N.B.C. Broadcasting and does this type of work.

What would something like this sell for? We're not trying to rip anyone off, just making sure it would be worth the time and effort.

****EDIT: Added pictures. They function as STOP and TURN SIGNALS. When applying the brake, and activating a left or right turn signal, they flash! Wicked cool and ADDED SAFETY at night.

This is what they look like at night while just applying the brake.
http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-2.jpg


Braking while backing up. ###For those of you with a 2007 with backup camera, these lights brighten the view as well if you lightly hold the brake while backing up! BONUS! XD
http://homepage.mac.com/jtrussell7/New%20Album/pictures/picture-1.jpg
Count me in John

That is correct... on US models, they do nothing, until wired to do something.

im in for up to $40ish

yeah you would have to keep it under $50, unless it was offered by GSM in which case it could sell for $199.95.

LOL on the GSM comment.....Sounds about right for them, but don't forget it will probably arrive with a few connectors missing, and no instructions.

As to pricing? Would like to see it right around a high end of 40-50 shipped. Sounds good for stop and turn only, cause the existing bulbs are definitely too bright if used as a taillight. Wired mine up as tails, using a wire tap only, when I got the Jeep, saw how bright they were, unplugged them and never used them.

My question to appayipyip is are you using the four pin connector or 10/7 one? I can use the 4 pin, but other is used for my trailer set up.

I'm definitely in if he can get us into the above price range. Appreciate the feeler he put out, and congrats on the work work he has done so far.

Count me in. $50 shipped seems fair.

I'm in for $40 to $50

Count me in.
I would pay twice as much as long as GSM was not involved.
Bill

I'm in for under $50.00 shipping included
I think the safety of the extra lights makes it an easy yes !!

I haven't even picked my car up and I'm in.

Alex

I can do one better. I can build a plug and play harness with new sockets that give you running lights, along with stop and turn signal lights. Check these out...

Before:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/txblu/Jeep%20Lights/TailLightsBefore.jpg

After:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/txblu/Jeep%20Lights/TailLightsAfter.jpg

Before:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/txblu/Jeep%20Lights/BrakeLightsBefore.jpg

After:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/txblu/Jeep%20Lights/BrakeLightsAfter.jpg

I can make these for around $125 shipped.

:D

Done, I am in.
Please let us know how we can get payment to you.
You will furnish directions for us "non-wrenches"?
Bill

As others said, $40-$50 sounds right.....I would be in for that.

Lets do it!!! I'm gettin excited!!!!

How about the folks north of the 48? Should be a s simple as dropping it in US Post. RM360 shipped the antennas in this fashion with no probs ... If your willing to send them north, I'm in.

I am in, no more than $50.00 shipped.

I would ship to our Alaskan friends, not a problem. So far it looks like the price will be $40 + shipping. For most it should be around $45 shipped.

How about the Canadians ... again US post will deliver if you are willing to ship them

I'm definately in. Whenever your ready.

Can a switch be included in case we want to deactivate it (back to normal/current state) and reactivate it on demand? Just a thought so we have the option to turn it off. Not sure if anyone else might be interested in this additional feature.

Can a switch be included in case we want to deactivate it (back to normal/current state) and reactivate it on demand? Just a thought so we have the option to turn it off. Not sure if anyone else might be interested in this additional feature.
I think you could get the "trunkmonkey" to plug/unplug it for you. :D

let me know where to send chk.. Thanks John

I'm in...been wanting to do this for a while now...thanks.

Im in 50 bucks no problem! lets get it done!

new member........I'm in keep us posted! will they function as blinkers? legal?

new member........I'm in keep us posted! will they function as blinkers? legal?
Yes and Yes. Welcome to the forum!

I'll be in for under $50. Give us an address to send a check to...

Hi all,

My dad and I worked up a simple plug and play harness to activate the rear fogs on our trucks. This would take you 10 minutes tops to plug in, and it would use the existing trailer plug. There is NO cutting/modifications to the vehicle needed.

Would you guys be interested in the harnesses if we made up a batch of say....10 or 15 of them? They are somewhat time consuming to make, since everything we do is "better than factory" as far as loom, weatherproofing, soldering of plugs, etc. My dad is a technician with N.B.C. Broadcasting and does this type of work.

What would something like this sell for? We're not trying to rip anyone off, just making sure it would be worth the time and effort.
Plug & Play, install in 10 minutes and NO cutting/modifications? I think you'll find this is not exactly the case. The lower lights are wired together, (in parallel), from the factory as Fog Lights, & not intended to blink separately as turn signals. I wired mine as BrakeLights/Turn Signals 8-10 months ago using the trailer wiring but found it was necessary to clip one wire that tied the positive (12V +) wire to both lower lamps. Good luck.
BTW, this is an excellent upgrade and should be at the top of every GC SRT8 owners list of things to do.

Plug & Play, install in 10 minutes and NO cutting/modifications? I think you'll find this is not exactly the case. The lower lights are wired together, (in parallel), from the factory as Fog Lights, & not intended to blink separately as turn signals. I wired mine as BrakeLights/Turn Signals 8-10 months ago using the trailer wiring but found it was necessary to clip one wire that tied the positive (12V +) wire to both lower lamps. Good luck.
BTW, this is an excellent upgrade and should be at the top of every GC SRT8 owners list of things to do.


Excuse me? There are many ways to do this mod, and my method does NOT require any cutting. Just because you chose a different method does not mean that my method is wrong. You have no idea how I've done this, how can you even comment on it? Why would I tell the members that NO CUTTING was required if I did not mean it? Seriously...please keep your comments to yourself.

I've built harnesses for BOTH of my vehicles, and it is installed on BOTH of my SRT-8's. It has been working flawlessly for a week.

I've utilitzed the existing 4-pin trailer plug, a reverse plug, and OEM plugs for the lights. There is NO need to clip ANY wire. That is a fact.

If you can plug in a toaster, you can do this once you have our harness.

thats a great idea to supply new bulb sockets so that no cutting is necessary.

just an idea... you can also offer the harness in special versions, for example the fogs could be wired up as reverse lights (I did this and I'm using 50 watt bulbs, it's pretty helpful at night) or you could wire them to be only brake lights not signals, etc.
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Excuse me? There are many ways to do this mod, and my method does NOT require any cutting. Just because you chose a different method does not mean that my method is wrong. You have no idea how I've done this, how can you even comment on it? Well you're excused I suppose. I did not say your way was wrong, did I? And as for my commenting, unless you own this forum and have recently changed the rules it is customary to allow any member to comment without your approval.
Why would I tell the members that NO CUTTING was required if I did not mean it? Seriously...please keep your comments to yourself. Seriously dude, it is not your place to control the posting privileges of any of the forum members.

I've built harnesses for BOTH of my vehicles, and it is installed on BOTH of my SRT-8's. It has been working flawlessly for a week.

I've utilitzed the existing 4-pin trailer plug, a reverse plug, and OEM plugs for the lights. There is NO need to clip ANY wire. That is a fact.By removing the factory harness connections at the lower bulb receptacles and using replacement connections to the lights a Plug & Play is indeed workable, and a quite clever way to achieve a mod that anyone can do. I applaud your ingenuity and wish you the best of luck with your project.

If you can plug in a toaster, you can do this once you have our harness.

i've been following along and you can count me in. just post the amount and the payment method you want. better yet pm me. thanks for your r and d it's really appreciated.:D

can these be set up to use the 7-pin trailer plug instead of the 4pin also? (i plan on using the 4pin for my trailer when the time comes)

I'm in if I can still hook up (simply) a trailer light
setup as well. Need well written instructions for
somone basically retarded in all things electrical.
If this is so just let me know where to send the check.
Craig

can these be set up to use the 7-pin trailer plug instead of the 4pin also? (i plan on using the 4pin for my trailer when the time comes)At any RV dealer, many Auto Parts stores, as well as on countless Internet sources you can buy a 7-Pin to 4-Pin Adapter for $10 or less. The Adapter is 2-3 inches long, plugs directly into the existing 7-Pin outlet & has a standard 4-Pin receptacle to plug your trailer wire into.

lol !! im in.

Seriously dude, it is not your place to control the posting privileges of any of the forum members.



I'm not trying to control any posting privileges, just letting you know that your comments pissed me off. Insinuating that I was LYING to members is a quick way to get under my skin. The way you worded your post, it seemed as if you were saying that I lied to them by telling them it was plug and play with no cutting required. When you have no prior knowledge of how my harness works, well it's not very smart to talk about it as if you know what is going on.



For everyone ELSE in this thread that wants to purchase a harness, it will use the 4 pin plug. you can still use the larger, 7 pin plug that is also at the rear right next to this one.

I believe that you have a true plug and play, and will buy one when available. Thanks

I'm not trying to control any posting privileges, just letting you know that your comments pissed me off. Insinuating that I was LYING to members is a quick way to get under my skin. The way you worded your post, it seemed as if you were saying that I lied to them by telling them it was plug and play with no cutting required.It's unfortunate that you took my initial post as a personal attack & were so offended. As I stated in my last post your work-around to keep from cutting any wiring is ingenious, and will help many to complete this mod.

Count me in for a harness. Give me the green light!:eek:

nice mod! Please let me know when you are ready for payment.

You can count me in as well.

definitely count me in.

Wats the good word appayipyip? Any ETA on the harness?? :cool:

I'd be interested also.

I want one as well...my tint is super dark... need all the lights I can get!!! Thank You... you pioneer you!!! Awesome!!! PM me when ready...Paypal,money order...check whatever!!! Thank You!!!

im down, PM me when ready!

Where are we on this....obviously alot of us are ready to pull the trigger.
Bill

I appreciate the interest everyone! Please hang in there, as it is just my dad and I who are making the harnesses. I'm a teacher and he is always traveling with NBC Sports, so it will take us a week or so.

I will create another thread when we are ready to take orders. A run of about 30 harnesses will be put together, I'll put the thread up when 15 are ready and ship them in the order payment is recieved.

Thanks for the update!
Bill

Good to know!

thanks again!

Sweet!!
Can't wait!

I'm in as well. have them on my Aurora and really love them. Keep us informed.

Thanks for the info. Keep us informed as to when the harness will be ready.

I'll take one too!

Thanks!

I'll take one too. Let me know when they are ready.

Sir,
Can you please tell me where I can get a Billet SRT8 shift knob?


Thanks!

Skye



LOL on the GSM comment.....Sounds about right for them, but don't forget it will probably arrive with a few connectors missing, and no instructions.

As to pricing? Would like to see it right around a high end of 40-50 shipped. Sounds good for stop and turn only, cause the existing bulbs are definitely too bright if used as a taillight. Wired mine up as tails, using a wire tap only, when I got the Jeep, saw how bright they were, unplugged them and never used them.

My question to appayipyip is are you using the four pin connector or 10/7 one? I can use the 4 pin, but other is used for my trailer set up.

I'm definitely in if he can get us into the above price range. Appreciate the feeler he put out, and congrats on the work work he has done so far.

Sir,
Can you please tell me where I can get a Billet SRT8 shift knob?


Thanks!

Skye

follow the link for contact info...

http://***********/forums/showthread.php?t=3717

I want one for up here in Alaska. A lot of dark nights during the winter :cool:

me next?? I can send paypal or check.

Any update as to availability? No rush, I just don't want to miss my chance to reserve a seat on the bandwagon. TIA

Prowler

Hey man...You have them done yet...I want it bad!!! PM me please!!!

Any chance you could PM me as well when the harnesses are ready? Just afraid I will miss out. Thanks.

Any chance you could PM me as well when the harnesses are ready? Just afraid I will miss out. Thanks.

Same here.

Same here on the PM. Thanks!

Please PM me too! I would love to have it! Just tell me when to pay!

Anybody know why the pics I posted of my fog light mod were deleted, and by whom?

Mysteriously, my pics have reappeared! What's up with that, I wonder? Maybe I need to get better drugs... :eek:

This is what the rear fog lamp switch looks like on the Euro models, #2 is the rear fog and 3 is the headlight leveler.

Not to jump on the band wagon but LET ME IN ON IT!!!!!!!!!
COOL MOD MAN!!!!:D

I'm in as well. Thanks!

Let me in too!

PM me when available

Thanks!

Rip

I don't think this will ever happen....

Its been a while since this was started.

I don't think this will ever happen....

Its been a while since this was started.
No disrespect to the author, but I'm with you and beginning to research this for my ride.
Bill

I already wired mine up to work. But, they for some reason don't work at night. Thats the only difference between mine and this guys.

I already wired mine up to work. But, they for some reason don't work at night. Thats the only difference between mine and this guys.
SilverSRT8
Does this thread help?
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691&highlight=rear+fog+lights

Much of a problem to do a clean install?
Bill

It was easy to install. I think it was the harness that I got that was causing my problems. I just need to get back under it and figure it out. I have been too lazy to do it. But I don't see the need to buy any extra kit to do it. Its a very simple install if you do it right the first time. It was int he middle of the summer and it is just too hot to be under the car and on the floor. Maybe I will play with it tonight and go to wal-mart to get the right one.

4 pin trailer harness connector, some wire and wire troft. Installed mine in 1/2 hr.

This is what the rear fog lamp switch looks like on the Euro models, #2 is the rear fog and 3 is the headlight leveler.


Ok, so what the heck is a "headlight leveler?"

Ok, so what the heck is a "headlight leveler?"


I think it is the same thing as getting your blinker fluid changed at jiffy lube!!:D :D

^ It's for cars equipped with HIDs but no projectors. The new Escalade's have them.

Ok, so what the heck is a "headlight leveler?"

Posted the once, a few minutes ago, did not take. Hope this is not a dup.

In post #1 look at little lever marked 0-3 under the Nav screen. Euro models have this.

http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?p=47952#post47952

It was easy to install. I think it was the harness that I got that was causing my problems. I just need to get back under it and figure it out. I have been too lazy to do it. But I don't see the need to buy any extra kit to do it. Its a very simple install if you do it right the first time. It was int he middle of the summer and it is just too hot to be under the car and on the floor. Maybe I will play with it tonight and go to wal-mart to get the right one.

i went back and got a diff harness from wal mart and re-did it in 30min and it now works at night. I am not sure what was wrong the first time.

Here's my take on this; People with the backup camera complain about the poor quality of the video especially at night. Enabling the rear fogs as backup lights with the brightest bulb should help this. The more light when backing up the better. A clear lense would help even more, but people would have different opinions on the appearance of the clear lense I suppose. And then, what about the idea of infared bulbs for night? Would this increase visibility for the camera?

an infrared bulb would help if the camera was black and white, but the factory camera is color. Thats a great idea though.
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I wonder if the rear fog lens color is through the pastic or a surface coating...
If just a coating, I am sure it could be removed...

I wonder if the rear fog lens color is through the pastic or a surface coating...
If just a coating, I am sure it could be removed...
That would be great. It would be my guess it is red plastic like the tail light.

Ok, I wonder if any of the custom tail light people could make us a clear one?

Yeah Wiskey, it shouldn't be to hard to fabricate. It would be great to find another application that would fit.

I put HIDs in and I can see everything...they are so bright...absolutely no problems unless the lens is dirty!!!

I still want this upgrade...SELL IT TO ME NOW or I will have you whacked when I get my Welfare Check!!!

Would be interested in the harness!!

Any update, or did we decide to put this on the shelf???

Any update, or did we decide to put this on the shelf???


they probally got bombarded by like 100 offers for the harness and it was too much.

I'm in for $40. or $50., let me know I'm really interested

Same here, $50 would be fine if no problem hooking up
trailer lights. By no problem I mean just plug in and play.

any word on this ??

My mechanic used a typical trailer harness like Mr.Hemi described. Did my lights during an oil change. Looks like it came from the factory...took less than an hour cost $90. Well worth it if I don't get rearended even once!
They work like another set of rear lights and flashers.

Any pics or part numbers?

I would like to buy the harness as long as I can hook up my trailer lights which I should have working next wee, let me know what I have to do.

I'd like one as well---any price? Please PM me when you can.

I want one when available thanks

I wouldlove to purchasethis? is it available?????????

I wouldlove to purchasethis? is it available?????????

See my April 5th comment. The harness is some 4 buck trailer harness from any auto parts place. My mechanic had one in his tool box. He added clips to keep the wiring in place and yadah-yadah I got another set of brake lights and turn signals. They do not light up when the head lights and tail lights are on...just braking, turn signaling and 4 way flashering.
Good luck!
JonVon

I wouldlove to purchasethis? is it available?????????

Mango did use the word "possible" in his original post, and so far nothing has come to the table.

And, since his feelings got hurt, it looks like he picked up all his marbles and went home. So, it may very well be a dead issue.

I will take one

i will like one as well PM me please

New to this site.....did you decide to develop the plug n play system?

This thread never lead to any sales.

what if your 08 doesn't have an existing trailor plug?

interested.. let me know on price to Canada!