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: 23's, 24's ????


grystrm
01-14-2007, 10:36 AM
If you have 23in rims or 24in rims or know where i can find some good pics, will you please direct me, or post up your pics please, thanks!

ge2
01-14-2007, 10:41 AM
23s aren't very common. Not that they are some rare thing or anything, it's just that few manufacturers make them. It's a great size IMO, for many applications, and I'd be anxious to see them on an SRT Jeep. 24s are just a tad big on this size of SUV, for my liking, but I absolutely love big rims on the right rides. I've had several sets of 24s in the past, and I can (without question) say the best 24s I've had, were GFGs from WTWCorp. They are a great multipiece wheel maker, and totally cater to each individual customer.

grystrm
01-14-2007, 10:45 AM
hmmm, well most are doing 22s, i wont have to get them custom made for the jeep will i? Its not an SRT its a Hemi though

ge2
01-14-2007, 11:11 AM
With a non-SRT, you'll be able to buy about any wheel off the shelf. Custom building to spec won't be necessary in your case.

grystrm
01-14-2007, 11:16 AM
oh ok thanks! what do you think about these on a black basically srt8 cuz im converting it to look like one. http://www.mhtwheels.com/wheel.cfm?brand=76&cat=122

ge2
01-14-2007, 01:49 PM
That is a great looking wheel, and MHT is an excellent wheel company. (here's my old car: http://www.mhtwheels.com/gallery_vehicle.cfm?brand=3&id=39 )

grystrm
01-14-2007, 02:06 PM
nicccce! do you think that wheel will look good on a GC or should i go more fatter less spokes? that wheel looks kinda euro but the jeep is kinda euro looking

ge2
01-14-2007, 02:13 PM
It all comes down to personal taste. That wheel looks good. A bit too busy for me, but still very nice, and has a lace/racing style feel to it. If you like it, go for it.

SilverSRT8
01-14-2007, 03:05 PM
This is my fav out of them all...

http://www.mhtwheels.com/wheel.cfm?brand=76&cat=203

ge2, any idea if they could make these fit? It fits over the chargers brakes..

grystrm
01-14-2007, 03:13 PM
yea those are my 2nd chioice but im gonna go the black out route but not sure if ill like the chrome on the spokes? what you think?

ge2
01-14-2007, 03:16 PM
Yes-- that's a multi-piece wheel, so they should be able to build it to spec. For the SRT, I used 37mm offset in the front and 52mm in the rear.

I say 'should' because MHT is fairly new to the multi-piece gig and may not be super flexible in their offerings yet.

JNK328
01-14-2007, 07:19 PM
Hi just joined.
Few companies offer 23's to begin with never mind for and srt. Between the stag fit and brembo's, you are limited to choices. 24's....little rubber.

laddcruzer
01-14-2007, 08:29 PM
yea those are my 2nd chioice but im gonna go the black out route but not sure if ill like the chrome on the spokes? what you think?

Go with polished or even powder coated interiors. That way you don't over-bling and you demonstate the quality of the rim. Just my opinion.

bugz
01-14-2007, 08:53 PM
im in the same predicament whether to go 23 or 24s. let me know what u go with. Another thing... whats up with the cheap plastic interior, for 40k u think they might throw a wood grain in there :confused:

grystrm
01-14-2007, 09:37 PM
i saw a pic of one on 24s and it looked pretty good! The thing is my limited is blacl and i want black wheels with a polished lip and want my fender gap gone without lowering plus i plan on a srt conversion so itll set my front higher up. plus since im going black i dont think 24s would be overly blingy ya know? its a big toss up though cuz i might like the extra meat on 22s. i cant find any 23s i like either.

Str8Srt8
01-15-2007, 02:28 AM
Look at the Jeep TrailHawk concept with 22" wheels. This is 34" Total. If it looks that good on something smaller, I think 24" wheels will very good on the SRT8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc_oHmAatdc

I like these Jeeps and where they are going. Gonna have to get a wing on the garage for Jeeps.

Under5
01-15-2007, 07:36 AM
post the pic of the 24's that you saw!

ge2
01-15-2007, 07:55 AM
It's not an SRT, but here is the pic of a WK on 24s that I'm guessing he's referring to.

http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/SEMA_2005/Grand_Cherokee_dub_001.jpg

grystrm
01-15-2007, 10:08 AM
yea thats the one. i saw another from streetjeeps but it was a guy on ebay and i cant find it anymore. i think 24s look really good on um if you have srt8 kit. but 22s fit really nice too!

playboy5k
02-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Where the hell can I get thoes tail lights at?

Monarch

GodfatherSRT8
02-12-2007, 10:15 AM
look up Zens Garage on here. He sells those lights.

bugz
02-13-2007, 11:29 PM
anyone drop 23 or 24" shoes on their srt8 yet? if so any pics? Really want to see what it will look like. Also if anyone has gone to the new dub car show, take pics of their srt8, i think it has 24s on it.

amaze139
02-13-2007, 11:40 PM
Yes, I have put 24" wheels on my SRT8! Let me tell you it isn't cheap! There is pretty much zero one piece wheels that will fit the truck properly. I have found a few, but they do require spacers and only allow 25 series tires that cost $600 per tire. (Basically expensive rubberbands. The smallest sidewall for an SUV available and guaranteed to blow or pop a tire with the amount of power our trucks put out) It leaves a lot of space between the tires and the wheel well. You could lower the truck but until someone comes out with a real kit made especially for the GC SRT8 Im not gonna do it. The best way to get 24" wheels to fit is to have cutstom wheels and custom tires manufactured. This obviously is much more expensive, and a little more time consuming. You could spend anywhere from 6-10 grand for 3-piece wheels. I have dealt with numerous manufacturers and reps for wheel companies, and spoken with reps and mechanics for DUB, and the correct way to make 24" wheels fit on the SRT8 is to do it custom. Overall, I still have 24" wheels and 22's, and I prefer 22's if you want to be able to use the performance in this truck and still have a nice upgraded wheel!

ge2
02-14-2007, 04:57 AM
Amaze......... I think you just summed up (mostly) what I said from the beginning about 24s on our Jeeps. However, what are you talking about 'custom' made 24 inch tires for? There are plenty of sizes that will fit our application, should someone decide to go with 24s. PLENTY. And they defintely don't need to be 25 series.
And when you day DUB, are you meaning Dropstar, TIS or MHT? Of those 3 there is only one that makes multi-piece wheels, and they are brand new at it, and truthfully having a difficult time being successful as a multi-piece wheel manufacturer.

bugz
02-14-2007, 10:12 AM
Yes, I have put 24" wheels on my SRT8! Let me tell you it isn't cheap! There is pretty much zero one piece wheels that will fit the truck properly. I have found a few, but they do require spacers and only allow 25 series tires that cost $600 per tire. (Basically expensive rubberbands. The smallest sidewall for an SUV available and guaranteed to blow or pop a tire with the amount of power our trucks put out) It leaves a lot of space between the tires and the wheel well. You could lower the truck but until someone comes out with a real kit made especially for the GC SRT8 Im not gonna do it. The best way to get 24" wheels to fit is to have cutstom wheels and custom tires manufactured. This obviously is much more expensive, and a little more time consuming. You could spend anywhere from 6-10 grand for 3-piece wheels. I have dealt with numerous manufacturers and reps for wheel companies, and spoken with reps and mechanics for DUB, and the correct way to make 24" wheels fit on the SRT8 is to do it custom. Overall, I still have 24" wheels and 22's, and I prefer 22's if you want to be able to use the performance in this truck and still have a nice upgraded wheel! do you have a pic of your jeep on 24s ? i think ev eryone is curious to see the outcome... thanx

amaze139
02-14-2007, 11:45 AM
Amaze......... I think you just summed up (mostly) what I said from the beginning about 24s on our Jeeps. However, what are you talking about 'custom' made 24 inch tires for? There are plenty of sizes that will fit our application, should someone decide to go with 24s. PLENTY. And they defintely don't need to be 25 series.
And when you day DUB, are you meaning Dropstar, TIS or MHT? Of those 3 there is only one that makes multi-piece wheels, and they are brand new at it, and truthfully having a difficult time being successful as a multi-piece wheel manufacturer.

As far as one piece wheels, there is NOT plenty of wheels to choose from! For multi piece wheels, there are a number of options. It all depends on how much you want to spend. I was just saying that one piece wheels can be hard to find because Jeep has a very non traditional bolt pattern (5 x 127/5 x 5) and require a very high offset application in order to fit on the SRT8. And yes, I also realize that 25 series are not the only tire that will fit, but most aftermarket wheel vendors will only put those tires on if you choose to purchase the few one piece wheels out there. IMO custom everything is the only way to go, because that way everything is built to the correct specs and you can design them yourself. It all depends on how much money you are willing to spend. Also, the ride is much stiffer and less comfortable when having 24's on versus 22's. And yes I have applied Dropstars, TIS and MHT to my truck, but am not in love with all of the styles they offer.

Yes, I do have pictures, but I need to scan them in! I will get on that!

ge2
02-14-2007, 12:59 PM
Having custom tires made is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard someone suggest.

And I totally agree, Amaze..... there aren't a ton of cast wheels offered, but there are some. Certain people may like tem, others may not-- but they are out there.

And any shop that won't put the size tires YOU want on there should never be getting your business anyway. Find another shop.

amaze139
02-14-2007, 05:51 PM
Having custom tires made is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard someone suggest.

And I totally agree, Amaze..... there aren't a ton of cast wheels offered, but there are some. Certain people may like tem, others may not-- but they are out there.

And any shop that won't put the size tires YOU want on there should never be getting your business anyway. Find another shop.

I dont really care for you saying that having everything custom made is ridiculous.... That is something I have done! I don't see in anyway, shape or form how that is ridiculous! If someone has the money to do that, and wants it exactly the way they want it, then what is wrong with that?! Isn't that just taking pride in their ride and wanting to do it completely their own way and not have the same thing as anyone else? I wasn't aware that was a ridiculous thing to do. Also, I don't go through shops like that, I go through West Coast Customs, and 310 Motoring. But, I was just stating that I do know there are vendors that do that.

AlexT
02-14-2007, 06:23 PM
I dont really care for you saying that having everything custom made is ridiculous.... That is something I have done!

Who makes custom TIRES?

Alex

ge2
02-14-2007, 06:28 PM
Who makes custom TIRES?

Alex


Exactly.

I the last custom ANYTHING that I have seen done with tires is custom tread siping, but that was for demonstration purposes at SEMA (which I watched in person).

Custom built wheels... yes. I've gone that route a handful of times. Custom tires? Like I said.... rediculous. Possible? Yes, but when every size you could possibly want is available, then I just don't get you trying to sell us on custom rubber. It ain't about money.

Tell me a size that you wanted for your 24s but were unable to find.

AlexT
02-14-2007, 06:35 PM
Exactly.

I the last custom ANYTHING that I have seen done with tires is custom tread siping, but that was for demonstration purposes at SEMA (which I watched in person).

Maybe the poster was confusing wheels with tires?

As far as DIY siping, off-roaders do it all the time.

Alex

amaze139
02-14-2007, 06:38 PM
Exactly.

I the last custom ANYTHING that I have seen done with tires is custom tread siping, but that was for demonstration purposes at SEMA (which I watched in person).

Custom built wheels... yes. I've gone that route a handful of times. Custom tires? Like I said.... rediculous. Possible? Yes, but when every size you could possibly want is available, then I just don't get you trying to sell us on custom rubber. It ain't about money.

Tell me a size that you wanted for your 24s but were unable to find.

Dude, what don't you get?! Im not trying to sell you on custom wheels and tires! I was just saying its an option if you want to have more to choose from! I don't really care one way or another. I was just trying to give one of the other members a little insight as far as wheel applications. Your opinion is your own, and so is mine. I choose to spend my money how I want to. I don't think it's that of a big deal! People, were saying that those daimond wheels for like 250 grand where ridiculous. I don't think so at all, if someone wnats to pay that much, then go for it. To each his own! Its all about getting a new vehicle that we all love and having fun with it, not arguing or criticising. Have fun and enjoy your ride everyone!

AlexT
02-14-2007, 06:39 PM
Dude, what don't you get?! Im not trying to sell you on custom wheels and tires! I was just saying its an option if you want to have more to choose from! I don't really care one way or another. I was just trying to give one of the other members a little insight as far as wheel applications. Your opinion is your own, and so is mine. I choose to spend my money how I want to. I don't think it's that of a big deal! People, were saying that those daimond wheels for like 250 grand where ridiculous. I don't think so at all, if someone wnats to pay that much, then go for it. To each his own! Its all about getting a new vehicle that we all love and having fun with it, not arguing or criticising. Have fun and enjoy your ride everyone!

Who makes custom TIRES? I've never heard of that before.

Alex

ge2
02-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Custom wheels are custom wheels. And you're right-- they go up to hundreds of thousands..... I'm very aware of the custom wheel scene. It's the pitch for custom tires that has me (and obviously others) a bit confused here.

ge2
02-14-2007, 06:52 PM
I was looking for a pic of the custom siping I watched. It was for a mustang and the tread pattern was a mustang head all the way around blank rubber. It was killer. But alas.... I can't find a pic right now.

bugz
02-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Hey Amaze, do you have pics of your jeep with the 24s on them? if so will you post them.. thanx

StageFright
02-15-2007, 10:24 PM
I have noticed that bigger wheels tend to kill the performance, but its all about "unsprung weight", if you can get a lighter wheel and keep the same overall tire height as a stocker you should have no problem.

Street WK
02-15-2007, 11:37 PM
Amaze... Please answer the question... Who makes custom tires? And what 'custom' size did you get made?

We UNDERSTAND you got 'custom' WHEELS but why do you keep AVOIDING the 'custom' TIRE questions?

bugz
02-16-2007, 10:25 PM
and no pics... Hmmmm

amaze139
02-17-2007, 12:47 AM
The tires were a prototype sample from an independent manufacturer. I know a few guys you work for one of the largest tire manufacturers and they were able to create come prototype tires for various reasons (New company, car show, and safety and performance purposes). They do not sell these tires commercially, just experimenting. And yes, I will post pics of the 22 and 24 inch wheels on my truck when I get a chance. Sorry but I travel a lot for business right now and so I only have my laptop. Patience is a virtue

Inferno SRT8
02-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Once you go above 20" rims with these SRT8 your killing performance no matter how heavy or vise versa the rims is. Its a bling mod and will effect your times and launch, be warned.

ge2
02-19-2007, 06:45 PM
Once you go above 20" rims with these SRT8 your killing performance no matter how heavy or vise versa the rims is. Its a bling mod and will effect your times and launch, be warned.

It's a debatable issue. I have not seen testing done on SUVs, but I've seen plenty of testing done on upsizing wheels on Porsches. Some cases there was minimal performance losses (thousanths of seconds), others there were no noticeable differences. While I have not seen a single report ever of performance improvements with upsizing, the myth that is all too often posted as fact (that any wheel upsizing costs you performance because of unsprung weight) is often just that..... a myth. Decreasing the tire and wheel weight at each corner significantly, will likely end up costing you next to nothing performance wise, if anything at all.

EDIT: I need to add to this.... If someone upsizes from say a 20 inch forged, to a larger and heavier cast wheel, then yes-- performance decreases will definitely be felt. I just wanted to clarify that I'm saying performance does not HAVE to be affected when upsizing. It can be, but if done right, you'll be fine.
That said... if you're fighting for thousanths of a second at a racetrack, upsizing probably isn't a smart move. If you're a regular driver, or stoplight jockey, you'll be fine as long as you choose the bigger hoop wisely.

Inferno SRT8
02-19-2007, 07:20 PM
Guys at the track proved it, larger rims were killing there times, 2 identical SS's ran and the guy with the 22" got killed, badly.

ge2
02-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Tell me about the 22s and the tires. And oh yeah... show me two of ANYTHING that are identical functionally (that aren't attached to Dolly Parton ;) )

Inferno SRT8
02-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Tell me about the 22s and the tires. And oh yeah... show me two of ANYTHING that are identical functionally (that aren't attached to Dolly Parton ;) )


What were we talking about again? :D

ge2
02-19-2007, 07:34 PM
LOL-- big round heavy things.

Inferno SRT8
02-19-2007, 07:38 PM
LOL-- big round heavy things.

How I love them.......:D ;)

And the woman im seeing now has D's so im loving them even more lately, even though im risking a sprained tongue.

AlexT
02-20-2007, 09:13 PM
What were we talking about again? :D

Focus. Focus.


:D

Alex

Black_SRT8
02-20-2007, 09:26 PM
26's all the way.