Well after 5 weeks and 2400 miles I had no coice but to get rid of this nightmare. I traded it in today for a leftover 2006 BMW X5 4.8is which I got a smokin deal on. It may not be as brutally fast but all around it is a much nicer vehicle to drive (the fact that it runs and does not have seveal inches of water inside the passenger footwell alone makes it an improvement).

I can honestly say that with how poorly this vehicle was built combined with how poorly I was treated by the dealer, I will never buy another Chrysler product again.

Good luck to all of you and I wish you much better luck than I had.

Well after 5 weeks and 2400 miles I had no coice but to get rid of this nightmare. I traded it in today for a leftover 2006 BMW X5 4.8is which I got a smokin deal on. It may not be as brutally fast but all around it is a much nicer vehicle to drive (the fact that it runs and does not have seveal inches of water inside the passenger footwell alone makes it an improvement).

I can honestly say that with how poorly this vehicle was built combined with how poorly I was treated by the dealer, I will never buy another Chrysler product again.

So the only problems you had were a water leak and a bad fuel pump and you got rid of it? Sorry to hear your dealer was not very accomodating. The X5 is a nice vehicle but is not known for high reliabilty, don't know that you will have "gained" all that much as far as reliabilty goes.

Well after 5 weeks and 2400 miles I had no coice but to get rid of this nightmare. I traded it in today for a leftover 2006 BMW X5 4.8is which I got a smokin deal on. It may not be as brutally fast but all around it is a much nicer vehicle to drive (the fact that it runs and does not have seveal inches of water inside the passenger footwell alone makes it an improvement).

I can honestly say that with how poorly this vehicle was built combined with how poorly I was treated by the dealer, I will never buy another Chrysler product again.

Good luck to all of you and I wish you much better luck than I had.


Sorry to see you go, and it really sucks that you had such an experience with both the Jeep and the dealer. It is kind of tough to understand in this day and age how quality of build, and performance of dealers can vary so greatly.

I have an 05 M3, 32,000 miles, and the 06 SRT8 with 24,000 miles. I have not had any problems with either car at all (except about to get tranny flash done) and both my Jeep dealer and BMW dealer are absolutely top notch, mod friendly, and get "5"s if you know what I mean.

Enjoy your new ride, and spank that M5 every so often....see ya.

So the only problems you had were a water leak and a bad fuel pump and you got rid of it? Sorry to hear your dealer was not very accomodating. The X5 is a nice vehicle but is not known for high reliabilty, don't know that you will have "gained" all that much as far as reliabilty goes.

Actually the list is quite a bit longer if I include the unstoppable oil leak, the oily fluid leaking out from under the dash, the 1/2 dozen rattles, the broken power drivers seat, etc, etc.

This in addition to a truck that only starts when it feels like it and a dealer who cannot seem to fix any of the problems. I drive a lot of miles and I cannot have a vehicle that will not run reliably.

As far as your comments on the unreliability of the X5, does that come from experience? I've owned a variety of BMW's over the years (including an X5) and I know several others who have X5's and have never had any kind of reliability issues.

...As far as your comments on the unreliability of the X5, does that come from experience? I've owned a variety of BMW's over the years (including an X5) and I know several others who have X5's and have never had any kind of reliability issues.
Wife's brother has an X5 and other than some nagging electrical issues loves it. I'm on my 4th Grand Cherokee and could count the total problems on one hand, guess I have lucked out as all the issues have been minor. With what you encountered though can't say that I blame you for trading it in.

Actually the list is quite a bit longer if I include the unstoppable oil leak, the oily fluid leaking out from under the dash, the 1/2 dozen rattles, the broken power drivers seat, etc, etc.

This in addition to a truck that only starts when it feels like it and a dealer who cannot seem to fix any of the problems. I drive a lot of miles and I cannot have a vehicle that will not run reliably.

As far as your comments on the unreliability of the X5, does that come from experience? I've owned a variety of BMW's over the years (including an X5) and I know several others who have X5's and have never had any kind of reliability issues.

sounds like you got a lemon. most here don't have all, or any of the problems you describe. Like I said in another thread, tough luck for you.

I am sure the x5 will be a nice ride, but I doubt if it will be as fun to drive. with regards to reliability, we shall see, eh?

WIfe drives a 06 X5 4.4. WIthin the first month, the fuel pump and all 8 fuel The back seat seat belt got stuck and had to be replaced. Today she noticed that the Nav system is 200 feet off. Outside of that, its great. I agree with you on the Jeep Quality...I am on my second one, and it will be my last DCX product. In 6 weeks after the body work is done, I will decide is I Shoot it, beat it with a sledge hammer, take it to a Marine Impact area to be used for Artillery Firing, trade it in, or just keep it. Good luck, the 4.8 is a nice SUV.

They are all just machines, and sometimes machines break.

As far as your comments on the unreliability of the X5, does that come from experience? I've owned a variety of BMW's over the years (including an X5) and I know several others who have X5's and have never had any kind of reliability issues.

The X5 has one of the most recalls ever out of any SUV.

Granted, I'm sure the later models are fine.

That aside, it does sound like you got a lemon.

Enjoy the new ride.

My wife has a 2003 X5 4.6is. In the almost 4 years of ownership and nearly 60k miles....I can only think of one problem...a bad heating element in the heated driver's seat. The warranty covered it. Other than that, no problems (knock on wood). It is alot smoother and more luxurious of a vehicle with really good handling (on par with the GC SRT8). In a straight line....that is another story.

Sorry your GC SRT8 ownership was not rewarding...good luck with the 4.8is it is a very nice SAV (BMW's terminology).

Tom

Here is an interesting write up on the Jeep SRT8 and BMW X5 4.8i from our old pal TRAINER who we know owned the Jeep and moved to the BMW recently. Interesting reading.....
http://www.x5world.com/x5-e53-forum/23741-jeep-srt-8-vs-2006-x5-4-8i-driving-impressions.html

Also, can't believe how much he got on the SRT trade in with 12K miles.....see this thread...
http://www.x5world.com/x5-e53-forum/23439-new-guy-post.html

GOOD LUCK MRICORP!!!!

Here is an interesting write up on the Jeep SRT8 and BMW X5 4.8i from our old pal TRAINER who we know owned the Jeep and moved to the BMW recently. Interesting reading.....
http://www.x5world.com/x5-e53-forum/23741-jeep-srt-8-vs-2006-x5-4-8i-driving-impressions.html

Also, can't believe how much he got on the SRT trade in with 12K miles.....see this thread...
http://www.x5world.com/x5-e53-forum/23439-new-guy-post.html

GOOD LUCK MRICORP!!!!

First, before the X5 bashing session continues, I want to make it clear that I did not post this thread to bash the GCSRT8. I thought it was an awesome truck but the problems and headaches in such a short period were monumental and I had no choice but to sell it.

As far as the X5 is concerned it is the truck I should have bought the first time but I saw the GC and had to have it. Some things actually worked out for the better and some didn't. What worked out was that since I waited I was able to find a 2006 leftover x5 4.8is (didn't want an '07 as I hate I-Drive) for over $11K off sticker and I was able to get a decent trade in price for the GC and I walked away without losing any $$ on the deal. The X5 is perfect for me as the interior is almost identical to my 2003 M5 which, as far as I am concerned, is as perfect as a car can get.

The downside is that there were not any more X5's around in LeMans Blue (to match my M5) and I will miss that raw rumble of the Hemi (especially with the exhaust).

All in all I'm happy with the switch and I have no intentions of slamming the GCSRT8 or any of you guys who own one. DCX however I will slam all day long.

Thanks jlandbl for the links. Sounds like he and I have a lot in common.

I will communicate with him as I move over to that board.

I will be signing off now and I wish all of you the best of luck with your trucks.

That is funny...I had (leased) a 2002 M5 in LeMans blue as well. What a great car! I had no problems with it and was such a thrill to drive. It was such a highly compentant car in all performance and luxury categories. I went from the M5 to an Audi RS6. Another great car but it did not possess as precise handling and sense of drama as the M5. I guess I am able to transition back to a vehicle like the GC SRT8 (my impending divorce necessitated a more economical choice). I "grew up" (I am only 35) on Mustangs (5 in total ..including a big block 68 fastback). So having American muscle and less than stellar build quality doesn't phase me as much.

Good luck and I hope people don't bash the 4.8is....it is a very solid vehicle. Good choice too on the 2006 model. The new ones don't look as good. Although...I do prefer the 4.6is 20" wheels over the 4.8is.

Tom

Oops! Almost forgot my parting shot.........

eh, not a bad looking vehicle... :)

congrats

Thts ashame you recieved a bad truck. I have two SRT8's, both perform flawlessly.

So having American muscle and less than stellar build quality doesn't phase me as much.

Good luck and I hope people don't bash the 4.8is....it is a very solid vehicle. Good choice too on the 2006 model. The new ones don't look as good. Although...I do prefer the 4.6is 20" wheels over the 4.8is.

Tom

Well spoken. I fully understand that in purchasing an American made vehicle, I am going to deal with lack luster build "quality". Sad, but so true. I fully understand the move to the Bavarian beast. I just have a hard time buying non-American cars...even if they are really built in Mexico,Canada,China and the such.

Well spoken. I fully understand that in purchasing an American made vehicle, I am going to deal with lack luster build "quality". Sad, but so true...
Well let's see, Jeep has had 16 recalls this year, Nissan 16, Toyota 14, BMW 14, Honda 13, Mitsubishi 12, Chrysler 11, Lexus 7... yep, those "imports" NEVER have problems, do they?

:D Think it all depends on how much the builders had to dring the night before!,, All makers seem to have a bad one roll out from time to time...

Guys, as MRI has said, he has no problems with the truck but a BIG issue with DCX. Yes they're machines and sometimes they break down, the shame of it all is that the F---ing dealers just don’t get it. I feel bad that the engineers that fight corporate bean counters to have these SRTs brought to us get shafted by lack of service from the rest of the Company. One can only hope that these same engineers find their way to BMW and Lex, so “We The People” can enjoy it ALL (performance, build quality, service, etc…).

MRI, Enjoy the new truck!

ResumeSpeed:

I have never seen any American car match the fit and finish of high-end German cars (Audi, BMW and MB). But I also realize that you pay a premium for that. But I am pretty tolerant of that and knew what I am getting into. I would also suggest that if you are using the # of recalls as a test of build quality....you should also factor in production numbers. Toyota, Honda, et al produce a "few" more vehicles than Jeep.

Tom

Congrats on the X5 purchase. I've always had great luck with my past BMWs and my local BMW dealer has been very good to me since they purchased the franchise in 1992. BMW styling and iDrive has pushed me away from the brand (and toward the P brand). I just can't decide if my first p-car is going to be a 997S cab to replace my aging (but very reliable) SL or will it be a Cayenne Turbo or Turbo S??? I guess I'll know the answer to that when I get my Jeep back from the dealer this week.

Well let's see, Jeep has had 16 recalls this year, Nissan 16, Toyota 14, BMW 14, Honda 13, Mitsubishi 12, Chrysler 11, Lexus 7... yep, those "imports" NEVER have problems, do they?

So, an automobiles build quality is equal to the number of recalls?? That is the 3rd most retarded thing i have ever read on the net. Congrats.

So, an automobiles build quality is equal to the number of recalls?? That is the 3rd most retarded thing i have ever read on the net. Congrats.


Did he say that? You interpret his comment, inaccurately paraphrase, then insult him - class-act all the way...


You can interpret his quote through cynical eyes. I see it as, "European vehicles are not perfect either."

Congrats on the X5 purchase. I've always had great luck with my past BMWs and my local BMW dealer has been very good to me since they purchased the franchise in 1992. BMW styling and iDrive has pushed me away from the brand (and toward the P brand). I just can't decide if my first p-car is going to be a 997S cab to replace my aging (but very reliable) SL or will it be a Cayenne Turbo or Turbo S??? I guess I'll know the answer to that when I get my Jeep back from the dealer this week.

I agree with you on the I-Drive which is why I grabbed this 2006 leftover. NO I-DRIVE!!

You cannot go wrong with a 997S. I LOVE mine and I have owned a bunch of Porsches (and others) including a 2005 GT3 which I sold for the 997S.

I though about the Cayenne Turbo but I was never in love with the looks and I couldn't bring myself to go over $100K for my daily (winter) driver.

So, an automobiles build quality is equal to the number of recalls?? That is the 3rd most retarded thing i have ever read on the net. Congrats.
I'm curious what #1 and #2 are.....
;)

The funny part about getting a lemon or not or a bad dealer or not is a mater of chance. I sure did not get a lemon. Not perfect but nothing is, everything is a balance, give a little here, to get more somewhere else. Sounds like the Jeep was not to your liking and that is fine. My dealer in my home town is just taking care of things as they come up like I bought it from them. I bought it 130 miles from my home town as here they are not a 5 star dealer and therefore can't sell SRT8's. So as unsatisfied as you are I am very pleased. Most fun I have ever had.

Did he say that? You interpret his comment, inaccurately paraphrase, then insult him - class-act all the way...

You can interpret his quote through cynical eyes. I see it as, "European vehicles are not perfect either."
Black_SRT8, you are right on the money, that is EXACTLY the point I was trying to make. BMW is a LONG ways from the top of any "reliability" ratings lists I have seen, and in fact is right next to Jeep and Chrysler!!


I'm curious what #1 and #2 are.....
;)
This asinine statement comes to mind:

"I fully understand that in purchasing an American made vehicle, I am going to deal with lack luster build "quality". Sad, but so true."
- Fastest H-Town Realtor


...I fully understand the move to the Bavarian beast..
Yep, makes a lot of sense - move from a (domestic) manufacturer that usually gets below average reliability ratings, to another ("Bavarian"/non-domestic) manufacturer that gets SIMILIAR below average ratings (yet costs a ton more).

ResumeSpeed:

I have never seen any American car match the fit and finish of high-end German cars (Audi, BMW and MB). But I also realize that you pay a premium for that. But I am pretty tolerant of that and knew what I am getting into. I would also suggest that if you are using the # of recalls as a test of build quality....you should also factor in production numbers. Toyota, Honda, et al produce a "few" more vehicles than Jeep.

Tom
As pointed out, I was not using "number of recalls" as a direct or definitive measure of reliability but rather to refute the false implication that only American vehicles have "lack luster build quality". For what you pay for the vehicles you mention, Audi, BMW and MB, one would certainly expect in the very least to have better quality fit and finish. But what is inexcusable for those brands is that for what you pay one would expect MUCH better reliability, yet all three fall into the lower half to worst in reliability ratings.

As far as fit and finish goes on my Jeep SRT8, it is nothing short of perfect. there is not a single flaw in the paint anywhere. Not a single body panel is misaligned. Every interior bezel and trim piece lines up perfectly. I have no rattles. The seats are extremely comfortable. The engine idles smoothly and the transmission shifts perfectly in all gears. A year old, 10k miles and not a single problem. If I had to find something to complain about there is a tiny bit of wind noise by the drivers window, something I'm sure I could get taken care of if it bothered me enough.

Now if I had bought one of those "non American" vehicles and paid $60k, $80k, $100k or whatever, and experienced some of the problems I have read about, I would be more than pissed. Buying a $40k Jeep I fully expected that there would probably be some issues somewhere along the line, and so far I have been lucky. If issues do arise I'll get them fixed and deal with it, I love the vehicle enough that dealing with a few repairs is not going to put a damper in the amount of pleasure that this vehicle brings each and every single minute I am behind the wheel.

Once again...with my wife's BMW X5 4.6is....and my 2002 BMW M5...over a combined 100K+ miles and 8 years...no problems except a bad heating element in the seat. The Audi RS6 had an annoying check engine light thing for a couple of months but was otherwise trouble-free. This is not a JD Powers survey or a scientific sampling ...but only my own personal experience.

It is interesting to note that the BMW X5 (including the 4.6is and now 4.8is) are all assembled in Spartanburg SC. I took a tour of the factory when I did the M5 Driving Experience. So...our departing friend mricorp is still driving an "American" SAV...;)

Tom

So...our departing friend mricorp is still driving an "American" SAV...;) Tom
Ahhh, one of those "Sports American Vehicle's"...

The new X5's are gorgeous! I bet they are pretty peppy with that 4.8l, 350hp, 350ft. lbs.

I can tell you if I'd had that many problems I would feel the same way. I can't understand why mine has been so good and others have had problems. maybe its something to do with the plant shutdown and disgruntled workers. The problem is compounded with bad dealers who don't understand the SRT and don't want to help

This is capitalism at work. People don't keep purchasing bad products

Well just to let you know I think my trucks motor was assembled on a Friday!!!!!
Still have not had my truck back yet and as far as a lemon this honestly is the only problem with it but this is a major problem. They have had my truck since DEC 10th.

So if your going to keep score on customer service I'm down at least 20 points. At the 2min mark!!:mad:

I agree with you on the I-Drive which is why I grabbed this 2006 leftover. NO I-DRIVE!!

You cannot go wrong with a 997S. I LOVE mine and I have owned a bunch of Porsches (and others) including a 2005 GT3 which I sold for the 997S.

I though about the Cayenne Turbo but I was never in love with the looks and I couldn't bring myself to go over $100K for my daily (winter) driver.

The looks of Cayenne have grown on me but I don't think the seats are all that comfortable. Lets not even begin to discuss the "coin" it takes to buy one but I am seeing pre-owned pricing that isn't too offensive on the non-S version. I have the same issue with getting a daily beater that's so expensive and I'd rather spend the money on the 997S. I could have both but my accountant would have fits about it (my dad). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Jeep will be acceptable once I get it back...the dealer is really making an effort to make me happy this time. I think the Turbo S that I was interested in might be gone, I didn't see on the lot when passed by this morning.

Relax, in a short time there will be several Cayenne Turbo's sitting out there.

I'm a lurker and finally had to reply.

My last car, one of the US' 1000 2003 Audi RS6s was all together Incredible:

Incredible handling, Incredible performance, Incredible luxury but also had
Incredible price and Incredible time languishing in the shop....

As a daily driver this one gave me 5 months in the shop out of 2 years of ownership, ugh ugh and tripple quadruple ugh....

If only my 'personal' agent at AUDI had cared a crap... and done something substantive..yet she didn't. They at least assign someone to their most expensive cars (It was only $87K at the time and they only had the A8-8 and the RS-6 in the group, pissed a bit that they answered the phone as the A8 (cheaper) team but whatever)

As it happens she didn't give S8!T after about 20 hrs of conversation and 40 calls based on over 15 trips to the shop so we are here.

OH, and BTW, I changed dealers, because AUDI told me to do it ('oh that other dealer is about to get kicked out of our network..not) and it didn't get any better, in fact it got worse!!! Have to say my Wife's A6 3.0 Quattro went back as well, she's the one happily driving the Infiniti G35x now.

I was more than happy to order the Jeep GC SRT/8 the day after they gave pricing to the dealers, given my previous issues. It has behaved fantastically and my dealer has been more than fantastic (FRED FREDERICK IN MARYLAND, both Laurel and Easton). If you are around the DC/VA/MD/DEL area buy it there!!!

I don't have enough time to detail the trials and tribulations that made me agree with so many others that the ASS CUSTOMER SERVICE of VW brings me to the following:
I WILL NEVER EVER AGAIN HAVE A:
VW, AUDI, PORSCHE, or other related vehicles EVER!!!!!

Let's go down the list that is current: VW, AUDI, PORSCHE, LAMBORGHINI, BUGGATI, or BENTLEY....pains me to say so because I'd love to have a the last 4 but their Customer Service is the worst imaginable!

A bunch of my bud's own BMW stuff (M5, M3, X5, 3 series), hasn't been a great ride for them so far either.

Relax, in a short time there will be several Cayenne Turbo's sitting out there.
Yep, once the parts come in from backorder and they get out of the repair shops they will be all over the place! As ugly as they are I am surprised that anyone even buys these overpriced VW Touarag's.

I would personally buy the ML63 over the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, and pocket a bunch of change. Not a lot of the AMGs and Porsches are sold to begin with. My local dealer will usually have at least 3-4 sitting on the lot waiting to be sold.

I would personally buy the ML63 over the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, and pocket a bunch of change. Not a lot of the AMGs and Porsches are sold to begin with. My local dealer will usually have at least 3-4 sitting on the lot waiting to be sold.

I'm not a fan of the ML and around here only women drive them.

Real sorry to hear of this particular set of problems with an SRT8,, but whatever happened, and however "nice" the beamer may be.... I simply couldn`t bring myself to drive one :eek:

a quick viewing of the BMW forum via the links above confirms that BMW (and therefore Audi) drivers display the same traits wherever they are in the world......


which is probably why I drive a completley "un-P.C. " Jeep :)

Real sorry to hear of this particular set of problems with an SRT8,, but whatever happened, and however "nice" the beamer may be.... I simply couldn`t bring myself to drive one :eek:

a quick viewing of the BMW forum via the links above confirms that BMW (and therefore Audi) drivers display the same traits wherever they are in the world......


which is probably why I drive a completley "un-P.C. " Jeep :)

Come on Rob...are you for real?
"couldn't bring myself to drive one"
same traits wherever they are"
"un P.C. Jeep"

Each vehicle I own serves a distinct purpose for my pleasure only. I am who I am period.

M3, Chevelle, GCSRT8, Harley low rider, Hannigan Trike...some not all, but all current....and I worked hard throughout life to have what I want without giving a Rat's Ass what someone else thought.

So what are my traits?

:confused:

Rob:

I have to agree with Teda...what are you talking about? I have owned (or leased) a 67 Mustang 289 Coupe, 68 Mustang Fastback 390, 85 Mustang GT, 96 Mustang Cobra Convertible, 65 Mustang Coupe (project car), 2002 BMW M5, 2003 BMW X5 4.6is, Audi RS6 and now an 06 GC SRT8. How am I like everyone else over at the Audi/BMW boards?

Your comment is a prime example of "car-centric snobbery" that is prevelant on most online forums/boards (including those worshiping the despised Audi and BMW). "My car is the greatest... if you didn't make the same choice as me... you suck...and your car sucks".

The truth of the matter is...the overwhelming majority of people who buy specialty vehicles (S/RS Audi's, BMW M's and X5 4.6/4.8, MB AMG's, SRT's, Ford SVT's, Cadillac V's..etc.) are car enthusiasts. They love high performance cars and chose that vehicle to meet a specific purpose. That purpose can be all around luxury and performance. Guess what... a GC SRT8 is a great performance SUV and has great amenities for the money... but a BMW X5 4.8is is more luxurious and easier to live with on a daily basis. My value system and preferences are well suited to the GC SRT8...someone else who has the financial capability might choose something else more refined. More power to them and their choice.

I am glad people have different values than me. Life would be alot less interesting if we all drove GC SRT8's.

Tom

Fun read... Yeah, I'm still around.. Old habbits die hard... And, yeah, I'm not regretting my switch at all.. FYI, my car is still on the used car lot at the BMW dealership..

Fun read... Yeah, I'm still around.. Old habbits die hard... And, yeah, I'm not regretting my switch at all.. FYI, my car is still on the used car lot at the BMW dealership..

Glad you are still around. We've been keeping track of you on the other site and referred MRICorp to you. How's the new wheels? I saw the dealer had your SRT8 on ebay for a while. Did you or they yank the system out?

FYI, my car is still on the used car lot at the BMW dealership..Trainer, do you think that is because you got such an amazing trade value on your GC? When I saw how much you got, I couldn't believe it! 39.9, right?

sucks about the lemon but the x5 is hardly known for reliability

enjoy the softer ride and nicer interior materials

hope to catch you at a stoplight ;)

It was an even 39K. I pulled everything out. HID's, FULL stereo system, alarm.. I sold the alarm already... I still have the HID's and stereo system in my garage. I haven't had a chance to try to sell it as of yet. Perhaps I'll do that soon on the site... I'm really enjoying my new wheels. The smoothness over bumps and the smooth engine really is nice.

I got mine back on Wednesday night from another week at the dealership. They did the TCM update and worked on all the rattles. I picked it up and it was actually rattle-free for about 30 miles, then every single rattle came back over the next 20 miles. I went and looked at the Cayenne Turbo S at my local dealership. I want it but I don't want to spend $105K it will take to buy this new, discounted Turbo S so I'm starting my search for right used one...this could take a while and I'm not in a big hurry...but mentally I'm done with the Jeep. I have no complaints about the dealership, as they did a good job and gave me back (after two tries) a vehicle that was actually free of the annoying sounds, even if it was very temporary.

You get what you pay for.... And with that said, I still think the Jeep is one hell of a bang for the buck in the performance dept! She just falls short almost everywhere else...

A friend of mine is buying a new car and I wanted him to go my route. We drove an '07 GC SRT as well as two of his other choices, a 335 BMW (4 door, stick, sport pkg.) and an Audi S4 (stick) yesterday. And on the way home I realized that Trainer and MRI are completely correct about our GCs. It's a sh*t box with amazing performance. My friend's '02 Yukon has nicer materials inside than our Jeeps. I'm not even talking about the new Yukon - for the same $45K! I guess I didn’t realize how cheap Jeep’s interior really is, I was smitten by it’s performance.

Last night I started looking for an X5 to replace my GC. I loved my ride and I sincerely hope that none of you guys face real reliability problems when GCs get to 70+K miles. I’m just not willing to take that chance and live with subpar everything but the performance of my car.

You really get what you pay for………….

A friend of mine is buying a new car and I wanted him to go my route. We drove an '07 GC SRT as well as two of his other choices, a 335 BMW (4 door, stick, sport pkg.) and an Audi S4 (stick) yesterday. And on the way home I realized that Trainer and MRI are completely correct about our GCs. It's a sh*t box with amazing performance. My friend's '02 Yukon has nicer materials inside than our Jeeps. I'm not even talking about the new Yukon - for the same $45K! I guess I didn’t realize how cheap Jeep’s interior really is, I was smitten by it’s performance.

Last night I started looking for an X5 to replace my GC. I loved my ride and I sincerely hope that none of you guys face real reliability problems when GCs get to 70+K miles. I’m just not willing to take that chance and live with subpar everything but the performance of my car.

You really get what you pay for………….

Jesus..... You say you loved it, and everyone is entitled to their opinions on everything from cars to houses to women...BUT, what I don't understand is how you can be "smitten" by performance and overlook everything else. Don't want to say you are clueless, but had you never seen the inside of a Yukon before, or were you not familiar with BMW's etc?
To each his own though.....Not one rattle or problem with mine at 25,000 miles so far. I was well aware of the cheap,( or subpar) interior, towing limitations, run flat capabilities etc., etc., before I bought the thing.
In my case, not worried about 70+K miles.... or long term reliability. No more so than someone with a Bimmer or Yukon would or should be. Doubt most of us will still have them to that duration.

Not flaming you, but in my case at a tad over 40K, I got what I knew I would get, and can't complain. I might have been smitten a bit too, but the affair continues and it's all good for me. Good luck on your search for a new ride and enjoy.

Lol 70k miles, I haven't kept a car to date past 40k miles........don't think I'll be starting with the GC.

my last jeep went 100,000 plus miles. I am starting to get pretty sick of the bashing. If you don't like the GCSRT8, trade it

You get what you pay for.... And with that said, I still think the Jeep is one hell of a bang for the buck in the performance dept! She just falls short almost everywhere else...

Yes, the Jeep is great value and that's why I decided to try it out. I like owning a "cheaper" vehicle for a daily driver. My problem is that the Jeep rattles more then my 8 year old, 115K mile Chevy Z71 truck and that's just wrong.

your jeep rattles, not mine

my last jeep went 100,000 plus miles. I am starting to get pretty sick of the bashing. If you don't like the GCSRT8, trade it
Ditto. That is the ease of posting on the net. Opinions are like bunholes, everybodies got one. Those who like the Jeep should start numerous threads about how much we like it?

Jesus..... You say you loved it, and everyone is entitled to their opinions on everything from cars to houses to women...BUT, what I don't understand is how you can be "smitten" by performance and overlook everything else. Don't want to say you are clueless, but had you never seen the inside of a Yukon before, or were you not familiar with BMW's etc?
To each his own though.....Not one rattle or problem with mine at 25,000 miles so far. I was well aware of the cheap,( or subpar) interior, towing limitations, run flat capabilities etc., etc., before I bought the thing.
In my case, not worried about 70+K miles.... or long term reliability. No more so than someone with a Bimmer or Yukon would or should be. Doubt most of us will still have them to that duration.

Not flaming you, but in my case at a tad over 40K, I got what I knew I would get, and can't complain. I might have been smitten a bit too, but the affair continues and it's all good for me. Good luck on your search for a new ride and enjoy.

Teda, I did love it and still do. The looks and performance are not making my decision any easier. I'm just a bit sick of the harsh ride (especially on the North East roads), sick of the rattles, poor dealer service and what promises to be a poor resale value. Perhaps, if had a larger budget I wouldn’t care as much and keep it.

No bashing just an honest opinion of a forum member. Take it with a grain of salt or don’t take it at all… I will be a bit sorry to see it go when I’m ready to trade.

Tand what promises to be a poor resale value. Perhaps, if had a larger budget I wouldn’t care as much and keep it.
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They seem to be holding their value decently so far.

No offense, lots of cars these days do not hold their value.

Even foreign cars.....go buy an 07 Benz SL550 and see what its worth after 3 years.

Your feelings are going to get hurt.

I don't think everyone got the memo that the GC SRT-8 is a performance "Junk Box". Everywhere I go in my GC i still get way more looks than I ever did in my X5 or my RR Sport. I keep it clean inside and out and it's still damn good looking after 18k mi - the toughest of all the performance SUV's after the RR Sport IMHO.

The ride is certainly very harsh, and my wife refuses to go in it for trips longer than 30 min. With our newborn, she's afraid of "shaken baby" syndrome:confused:
The cabin is suprisingly quiet if you ask me, and talking using U-connect proves it. There are some whisltes/rattles that I hear when the windows are down - oh well. Except for the horribly cheap e-brake, I think the interior is plain but nice - not to gaudy, not to plasticky. To me the front seats are very comfortable, but rear leg room sucks (especially if sitting behind me).

The side ground effects are cheap, but not noticable uless you grab ahold and wiggle them. The good news is they are also cheap to replace.

I pull my 2 SeaDoo's behind with custom hitch (basically the jeep class III trailer hitch) with no problems. I tailgate for Dolphin and Hurricane games (yes, I know they both sucked this year) and holds grill and all easily.

Factor in the performance abilities, and this is one of the top 4 performace SUV's on the market.

I find it hilarious how everyone trading in on an X5 bashes the reliability of the SRT8 and then proclaims "you get what you pay for".

The X5 is known for abysmal reliability. So what do you get for your $60k or so that 06 4.8s seem to be going for? Nicer materials inside (design is lacking imo) and a softer ride. Whoopie. You also get a "performance" SUV thats very short on performance and at the very least are buying something with as many reliability concerns as a grand cherokee.

I really don't see the point. BMW's X-drive has never been known as a good 4wd system. The X5 has never been known as a decent offroader. The 4.8is is hardly fast (yes i've actually driven one) especially in comparison to the SRT8. Maybe your neighbors won't sneer? Or maybe the nicer interior materials is really worth a $15+k hit and a large sacrifice in performance to you?

Serously, the Jeep rattles and hums but so did my luxo box RS6. It's not even a close match given the cost and customer service (or lack there of).

I find it hilarious how everyone trading in on an X5 bashes the reliability of the SRT8 and then proclaims "you get what you pay for".

The X5 is known for abysmal reliability. So what do you get for your $60k or so that 06 4.8s seem to be going for? Nicer materials inside (design is lacking imo) and a softer ride. Whoopie. You also get a "performance" SUV thats very short on performance and at the very least are buying something with as many reliability concerns as a grand cherokee.

I really don't see the point. BMW's X-drive has never been known as a good 4wd system. The X5 has never been known as a decent offroader. The 4.8is is hardly fast (yes i've actually driven one) especially in comparison to the SRT8. Maybe your neighbors won't sneer? Or maybe the nicer interior materials is really worth a $15+k hit and a large sacrifice in performance to you?

So much for not X5 bashing.

For the record I never bashed the SRT8 (only the one I purchased and DCX for how it was handled) and I would appreciate it if you would keep your nastyness to yourself.

I also really don't give a s*%t if my X5 is as fast in a drag race as my SRT8 was, all I care about is that I am happier with it than I was with the SRT8 (just the fact that it starts is a bonus).

So much for not X5 bashing.

For the record I never bashed the SRT8 (only the one I purchased and DCX for how it was handled) and I would appreciate it if you would keep your nastyness to yourself.

I also really don't give a s*%t if my X5 is as fast in a drag race as my SRT8 was, all I care about is that I am happier with it than I was with the SRT8 (just the fact that it starts is a bonus).
My "nastyness" ? Please.

I bit my tongue through most of this thread and genuinely hope that everyone who traded in on an X5 is actually happy deep down with their decision.

That said, I still have the right to defend the product I purchased and given that this is a public forum I have the right to question why someone would chose another product. As I said earlier, I can understand that someone would appreciate the nicer materials and softer ride but I wonder whether that's worth the performance hit and the $15k+ lighter wallet.

It is a shame that a few of you have had problems. If I were in your position with a jeep you say rarely even started, I would have lemon lawed it and demanded compensation in the form of a 7/70 or even 10/100 warranty extension on the replacement.

Enjoy your X5.

My "nastyness" ? Please.

I bit my tongue through most of this thread and genuinely hope that everyone who traded in on an X5 is actually happy deep down with their decision.

That said, I still have the right to defend the product I purchased and given that this is a public forum I have the right to question why someone would chose another product. As I said earlier, I can understand that someone would appreciate the nicer materials and softer ride but I wonder whether that's worth the performance hit and the $15k+ lighter wallet.

It is a shame that a few of you have had problems. If I were in your position with a jeep you say rarely even started, I would have lemon lawed it and demanded compensation in the form of a 7/70 or even 10/100 warranty extension on the replacement.

Enjoy your X5.

There was never anything to "defend" because I never "attacked" you or your vehicle. Instead you chose to attack me and the vehicle I purchased to replace my Jeep which apparently I "SAY" wouldn't start.

So insulting my choice in vehicles isn't enough, now you need to call me a liar too?

If you were in my place and were able to walk away from a problem vehicle for near what you paid for it and jump into another at over $12K off sticker, and you chose to fight to get it lemon lawed instead, then you, my friend, have a lot of extra time and $$ to throw away.

The longest warranty in the world does not help me when I am stranded somewhere waiting for a tow truck in the cold. Ooops, wait a minute apparently my P.O.S. X5 will start falling apart any minute now according to you.

There was never anything to "defend" because I never "attacked" you or your vehicle. Instead you chose to attack me and the vehicle I purchased to replace my Jeep which apparently I "SAY" wouldn't start.

So insulting my choice in vehicles isn't enough, now you need to call me a liar too?

If you were in my place and were able to walk away from a problem vehicle for near what you paid for it and jump into another at over $12K off sticker, and you chose to fight to get it lemon lawed instead, then you, my friend, have a lot of extra time and $$ to throw away.

The longest warranty in the world does not help me when I am stranded somewhere waiting for a tow truck in the cold. Ooops, wait a minute apparently my P.O.S. X5 will start falling apart any minute now according to you.

You're not the only person posting in this thread bub. Do you think that every other post in this thread was directed at you too just because you're the thread starter?

My post that was supposedly filled with so much nastiness was not necessarily directed at you.

You're not the only person posting in this thread bub. Do you think that every other post in this thread was directed at you too just because you're the thread starter?

My post that was supposedly filled with so much nastiness was not necessarily directed at you.

"Necessarily"??

MRI is looks like you have plenty of other vehicles to drive. Personally, I love the BMW X5. Wife drives one, and since new injectors and fuel pump were installed the first month, its been perfect. No wait, several pieces of defective moldings were replaced, the rear seat belts mechanism was replaced, the Navi is off 200 feet and it proudly announces that you have arrived....the front windshield was replaced for a distortion, and the driver power mirror would not fold. Now, its perfect.

I will not even go into the problems with my SRT from a quality standpoint. If it ever comes back from the body shop, I will decide if I am going to keep it (my second SRT), or send it on its way to some other lucky future owner.

My wife wanted to drive my car yesterday and I drove the X5. It rides great, but when I got back home, I realized I did not smile one time. Now thats a shame.

MRI is looks like you have plenty of other vehicles to drive. Personally, I love the BMW X5. Wife drives one, and since new injectors and fuel pump were installed the first month, its been perfect. No wait, several pieces of defective moldings were replaced, the rear seat belts mechanism was replaced, the Navi is off 200 feet and it proudly announces that you have arrived....the front windshield was replaced for a distortion, and the driver power mirror would not fold. Now, its perfect.

I will not even go into the problems with my SRT from a quality standpoint. If it ever comes back from the body shop, I will decide if I am going to keep it (my second SRT), or send it on its way to some other lucky future owner.

My wife wanted to drive my car yesterday and I drove the X5. It rides great, but when I got back home, I realized I did not smile one time. Now thats a shame.

I'm with you on that. It's a great truck to drive but definetly not high on the "fun factor" list. But for my work vehicle it does that job very well. It's comfortable, rides nice, has lots of power, gets decent mileage, and overall I'm very pleased.

It's far from the raw brute that the SRT8 was but I have lot's of other cars for that.

But according to Dave I'm just a moron and my truck is a P.O.S. so what do I know anyway.

I almost chimed in twice... I actually wrote a reply... then deleted it... This isn't the arena/forum to defend the X5 nor my choice to sell the SRT... I've been around the net long enough to know when not to engage in a debate, and most boards are bias and very defensive towards their,,,, well, their decision on whatever they own - car, bike, DVD player, IPOD,, blah blah blah.... Think about it, why would I be on a Blueray site talking about how much I love HD-DVD players when I own a Blueray?

To each is own...

After all this is an SRT site?

But according to Dave I'm just a moron and my truck is a P.O.S. so what do I know anyway.

Based on who I talked to recently, you're definitely not a moron and are a very standup nice individual.:)