So on the ride in to work today, I see a tuned up neon with A-pillar mounted guages. Obviously it was worked/modded up. I let him know I want to play and luckily we were first at a stoplight. At the light, I walked away from him and was easily 4-5 car lengths away and still pulling. I stop accelerating at about 80 and slow back down to 60ish to cruise. I see him pull up next to me quickly and now we are cruising at about 65mph. This is where it gets messy.

He punches it and I hear his turbo spool up. You know, that tell-tale turbo whine. As soon as he punched it I nailed the trottle to the floor and my truck roars, but dosen't do much else! He pulled HARD and this time, he was may car lengths away. I didn't stand a chance from this rolling 65mph race. :(

I'm curious if my 07' needs the TCM update? When I slammed the trottle down, it was as if the truck did not want to downshift. It just stayed in gear and made a lot of noise.

From what I have read the TCM flash won't hurt you any! I will be getting my TCM flashed after Christmas, I can't wait!

Yeah, I figured that. Also, I understand that the neon was modded and is much lighter. However, there have been times in the past where I'd nail the throttle and the truck would LAUNCH forward. This time, it did nothing. Just sounded bogged down....

I haven't had any problems downshifting with mine at that speed. You floored it right?

Not sure the flash will help with downshifting. Also, it supposedly isn't for the 07, implying that the 07 models have updated software compared to the 06 trucks..

I definetly floord it. This has me so confused, because on the highway I've floored it before and the truck would LAUNCH hard. This time, it just made that "bogged down" roar sound and barely accelerated. This was rolling at approximatly 65mph.

Confusing indeed.

sucks.. hopefully it won't happen again. I guess if it does, you could tap the shifter. At least you blew his doors at the light

A modded SRT4 is a killer. They can easily generate 400HP and they weigh a full 2000lbs less then the jeep.

At least you got beat by a cousin.

Haha yeah! It was impressive to say the least. I know that if my truck would have downshifted, or if I used the AutoStick, I would have taken him.

It was awesome seeing such a fast little car. That turbo sound was killer too. I gave him a high beam flash out of respect.

I'll get him next time, he's a local so I know I'll run into him again. =P

Although I'm still taking it easy on it, I too have noticed the resistance for it to shy away from a badly needed downshift for max performance. I guess we just have to be on the offensive and engage autostick in situations like this, and to remember to shift 500 rpm before redline???

Let us know if you are able to get the update on your 07.

I posted a while back about getting smoked by a srt4 on the highway. Those f'ers are fast when modded. Saw the kid at the track a month later. He was pullin low 12 second passes with a broken axle!!

Watch our for the modded neons, they may run 12's they they do them at 12X MPH...
I sold mine because I don't like roll races, my Speed 6 offers more luxury for daily driving and AWD for launches. The ATP Turbo kit will give it the HP it needs to run mid 12's!
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The GC SRT8 is out of its enviroment at highway speeds.

I can't wait to see how the SRT Calibers are going to perform. I might have to get one to mod/mess with.

There are soft spots in our tranny, like 40 mph, where it won't drop down and you get nothing when you apply the gas. And you won't beat anything in these cases.

Most of the time mine drops down, but I've been out on rides where I was showing people what this SUV is capable of, hammering it from a roll, and getting nothing.

Most of the time, it will drop down, but yes, it sucks when it doesn't and you really 'need' it too. It seems the only sure thing is 1st gear, which is like Colt 45, works every time. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't sweat the Neon too much, it might be fast, but it could be worse... At least you're not driving it!! :D

I wouldn't sweat the Neon too much, it might be fast, but it could be worse... At least you're not driving it!! :D

Lol, my buddy had a blue SRT-4......was a fun car at its $ point. But he later traded it for an 06 STI.

But a modded FWD turbo car? No thanks, don't care how fast it is.

I drove an SRT4 Neon a few weeks back. The body shop manager at the dealership where I ordered my truck from owns one. I sold my S4 to buy the truck so I let him drive the S4 and then we took out his Neon. I was impressed for a Neon. It would have given my S4 a run (Stage 2+ APR modded) His car was stage 3 or 5 or 8 or smthg. Either way it was a hairy front wheel drive ride.
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I've heard you want to run with fast, front-wheel drive turbos from a dig, and not a roll, i.e., you will spank most of them, they don't launch very hard. But, they run hard from a roll...

Plus, with the way our tranny works to date, 1st is your best bet, by far. ;)

my brother had a stock srt-4.. he just traded it in for a 06 350z, i got a chance to race him right before he got rid of it... off a stop it's not even fair... but off a roll he beat me on auto cause we were about 30mph and mine never downshift... but when i took him with manual i slowly gained on him till about 90mph.... i also raced his 350z and it did perform better than the srt/4 but still not able to beat me. but if an srt/4 has a stage 3 then i don't think it's possible for us to beat them further than 0-60.

Your '07 doesnt auto-upshift at a little over redline?

Mine does ... my AutoShift is pretty ****ty as well ... does not downshift fast and it always trys to control my downshift when I know going down a gear will not go over redline ... so lame.
It also takes FOREVER to put back into "D" when I hold the stick to the right ... jesus christ ...

I thought this was supposed to be a Mercedes transmission?
The transmission on my SL55 is basically manual ... oh well ... its a cheap american car, i guess its to be expected.

actually i don't have problems with manual shift... if from a stop i don't use it cause it works reall wellin auto, but off a roll i always race manual so i'm not embarraced my the truck not downshifting. and no i don't think it's a cheap american car eather... i had a dodge ram hemi sport before so i expected the same quality on the srt/8 but i'm very pleased with it's quality.(except some MINOR things)

I was actually talking to SpeedRacer333 ... didn't notice the second page when I posted heh

The transmission on my SL55 is basically manual ... oh well ... its a cheap american car, i guess its to be expected.
Why do all of your posts read like this? SL55 this, and SL55 that... I'm sure it's a nice vehicle but... Why are you comparing apples with oranges, constantly? :confused: :rolleyes:

Is it a $600k Enzo? No. But your comparisons to what you have compared to what you paid for are bordering on absurd.

I'd take my Jeep over my old man's MB ML500, and blow its doors wide off, any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Yes, that's a more expensive, non-American vehicle. And he'd probably do the same!! ;)

do most autos on the market downshift instantaneously? Doesn't it take a little bit from when the gas is first floored until it can actually downshift. I haven't timed the downshifts, but is our tranny really that bad? Are there auto trannies out there that downshift within mico seconds?

I think maybe some folks expect a bit too much from the auto . On the other hand, if it doesn't downshift at all, especially at 25-30, 65, 80, etc, I think then people have a right to expect more.

Anyways, just some newb thoughts. This is my first high performance autotrans truck. I have always been a manual trans guy..

actually i think WHEN it downshifts it's all good (no complaints there)... but from a 25-35mph it DOESN'T downshift when u stomp on it,which sux,

I wouldn't sweat the Neon too much, it might be fast, but it could be worse... At least you're not driving it!!
I would rather be driving it than looking at its tail lights.

I was actually talking to SpeedRacer333 ... didn't notice the second page when I posted heh

Actually, I have not played with Autostick at redline yet. But I have experienced the no-downshift characteristic.

I hope my 07 does the same as yours. I can see good applications for that!

do most autos on the market downshift instantaneously? Doesn't it take a little bit from when the gas is first floored until it can actually downshift.

From experience w/ a 97 Grand Cherokee V8, yes! Granted it had a Transgo kit added, that only made it respond sharper and quicker. Damn near instant, and somewhat dependent of pedal position.

Seems SRT went a long way to make thing as gentle on the drivetrain as possible.

From experience w/ a 97 Grand Cherokee V8, yes! Granted it had a Transgo kit added, that only made it respond sharper and quicker. Damn near instant, and somewhat dependent of pedal position.

Seems SRT went a long way to make thing as gentle on the drivetrain as possible.
These trannies don't react like the older ones that are built/modified. A mildly built 727 in my '70 will break the tires loose at 1-2 w/only modderate throttle. The SRT8's will get some tranny mods, it just may be awhile.

I wish those who have the cheap American version would just trade it for a KIA.

My only experience with an SRT4 came about 3 weeks after I got my Jeep. I caught his attention and he busted his butt to catch up to me. When he finally did it was the same story. He kept trying to roll race me once at about 45, 55 and again at about 60 or so. Luckily I didn't have any shift problems and I pulled on him every time but not nearly as much as I thought I would. I'd have to admit I was pretty impressed and the turbo did sound really sweet. So we finally catch a light on yellow and this bone head floors it to get through the light. I practically ran the light just to get through it, had another chance at a different light and he did it again! :rolleyes: We were on a two lane highway by ourselves at night and this guy wouldn't catch me at a light. I got him to pull over at a gas station so we could check out the rides and when I asked hime why he wouldn't race me from a light he said "Why so you can really embarress me?". He was bone stock except for a CAI. He did finally agree to race me from a light and it was pretty sad. He could not hook at all! From a roll though with some decent mods I can see these cars really giving a lot of fast cars a hard time.

After this whole thread I decided to take my truck up to 60 and floor it. Took off so hard it locked my seat belt. And this was with it raining outside. Gotta love it.
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I've found that if I really want to make the GC jump and accelerate hard at highway speeds, I need to quickly slap it down 2 gears with the auto stick and floor it, otherwise the tranny just doesn't downshift enough, or fast enough.

I have never had a problem with downshifting. Like Kram I also tested it at 60 (also 80, 10, 20 30) It downshifts like it should. I guess it may be time to have the dealer take a look, Hulk

After this whole thread I decided to take my truck up to 60 and floor it. Took off so hard it locked my seat belt. And this was with it raining outside. Gotta love it.


Yeah, this is exactly what mine will do most of the time. I was expecting this to happen during my little race, but alas it did not.

Aww well, maybe next time! Truck goes in for oil change on Wednesday the 27th, and the TCM update, and my front passenger side speaker sounds like it's blown or something.

Yeah, this is exactly what mine will do most of the time. I was expecting this to happen during my little race, but alas it did not.

Aww well, maybe next time! Truck goes in for oil change on Wednesday the 27th, and the TCM update, and my front passenger side speaker sounds like it's blown or something.

Let us know how the flash works with the 07 :)

Sure thing. BTW your avatar is just so friggen CUTE. I want to put her in my pocket and carry her around. =P

appayipyip,

My passenger front door speaker rattles like a b@stard as well when you turn it up. The sound it clear, but the vibration from the speaker grill or whatever it is rattling would drive you wild. Let me know what yours is.
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do most autos on the market downshift instantaneously? Doesn't it take a little bit from when the gas is first floored until it can actually downshift. I haven't timed the downshifts, but is our tranny really that bad? Are there auto trannies out there that downshift within mico seconds?

The auto in my 850 downshifts pretty damn quick. Sometimes it downshifts when I don't even need it to. Yes, yes....I know it's a Volvo, but it makes for a fun daily driver.

I wonder if the rate of change (pressing the gas slowly to the floor, versus stomping it) has any effect of how hard it downshifts like a conventional setup?