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: Mobil 1 Lube Express for oil change


timster
12-17-2006, 08:56 AM
I was thinking of getting my oil changes from Mobil 1 Lube Express. Has anyone had there JGCSRT8 serviced here? Do they sell the appropriate oil filter for the jeep?

WJ_Jeep
12-17-2006, 09:10 AM
I keep enough Mobil 1 oil and Mobil 1 filters in my garage for 10 complete oil changes.

I will never have a dealer or quick lube change my engine oil ever again, after one oil change I discovered that the underside of the truck was wet with oil and noticed a small drop ready to fall. It appeared to be coming from the oil filter seal.

I grabbed the oil filter and was able to turn it a full 1-1/2 turns by hand!

I discovered this after approximately 750 miles after the oil change!

I never noticed any leaks on the ground as it was all blowing on the engine and the underbody!

I have seen people pay $90+++ for a full synthetic oil change (using a cheap Mopar filter). It costs me about $40 for oil and a premium filter. It just take a little time.

Clueless
12-17-2006, 10:47 AM
It costs me about $40 for oil and a premium filter. It just take a little time.WJ, I hear you on the trust issue with dealers and all these discount places. But doing it yourself, while not technically difficult, has to be a pain in the neck. How do you dispose the used oil?

Clueless
12-17-2006, 10:52 AM
As an FYI here is a link to a different SRT forum, where guys are discussing synthetic oil. The upshot of the conversation is that we should use “winter” and “summer” oils. There is even a new TSB from Jeep about this.

http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?t=4007 – oil discussion
http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_0901106.pdf - TSB

WJ_Jeep
12-17-2006, 10:54 AM
I buy the oil in the 5-quart jugs, so when they are empty I put a funnel in the jug and pour the used oil in.

I place the used oil containers in 2-3 plastic shopping bags and drop it off at a local Auto-Zone store who accepts the used oil for recycling.

Most autoparts store will accept the used oil at no charge.

Clueless
12-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Thanks, I should try this. I already buy my own oil...

HoustonSRT-8
12-17-2006, 08:53 PM
Agreed. To hell with letting someone else monkey with my car.

I do as much work on all my cars as I can. I have never taken my Mustang to a shop/dealer for work.

timster
12-17-2006, 09:03 PM
I wish I could do it myself, but I currently live in an apartment. So it's either take it to the dealership, or have a quick lube done. The advantage with the dealership is that they should have the correct oil and filter. Some disadvantages with taking it to a dealership include price, and also having to wait a bit longer. If I can get the corect oil and filter from mobile 1 express, it seems the way to go.

ResumeSpeed
12-18-2006, 03:00 AM
I wish I could do it myself, but I currently live in an apartment. So it's either take it to the dealership, or have a quick lube done...
Find a friend or relative with a garage (and tools if needed), take a stash of their favorite beer and head over for a short "visit".

shsuhemi
12-21-2006, 01:49 PM
You know you guys are brave buying oil that has lowered its wear protection by 40%. I would hate to have to fix you motor in a few thousand miles.

WJ_Jeep
12-21-2006, 02:20 PM
You know you guys are brave buying oil that has lowered its wear protection by 40%. I would hate to have to fix you motor in a few thousand miles.

What do you mean??? Mobil 1?

That is the factory fill for the SRT8... Hmmm, confused here...

shsuhemi
12-21-2006, 02:45 PM
To meet a new API spec of a SM oil you would have to lower the additives that make up the wear protection by 40%. it is not just Mobil 1. It is any oil meeting this spec. It is a factory spec, because they pay for that and to get their name on the cap. It is no more than a way to make money. Just like spec-ing a 0w40 when there is no gidelines to spec a 0w40. Mobil 1 is one of just a few to spec this oil. Think about it. Also the difference between a 0w40 and 5w40 is really nothing.

WJ_Jeep
12-22-2006, 10:29 AM
What are your recommendations?

Sheri'SRT8
12-22-2006, 10:52 AM
My feeling is that if the vehicle needs warranty work, I'll take it there for the oil change. I got ours done this past Monday for $53.00 including tax. If there is going to be a problem with that work, I'll hammer on the dealer.

If no warranty work is required, I'll do it myself next time. I have the oil (Redline 5-40) and the filter (Mobil 1)

If you want to take a look at a really cool oil filter study, take a look here:
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

SpeedRacer333
12-22-2006, 09:46 PM
My feeling is that if the vehicle needs warranty work, I'll take it there for the oil change. I got ours done this past Monday for $53.00 including tax. If there is going to be a problem with that work, I'll hammer on the dealer.

If no warranty work is required, I'll do it myself next time. I have the oil (Redline 5-40) and the filter (Mobil 1)



I always try to avoid the dealer at ALL costs. And if it's not a serious/expensive claim, I'll even bypass warranty work.

So does self-maintenance void our warranty? If I can provide receipts (for oil/filter) would that hold up in a legal battle if it came to that?

Clueless
12-23-2006, 09:17 AM
To meet a new API spec of a SM oil you would have to lower the additives that make up the wear protection by 40%. it is not just Mobil 1. It is any oil meeting this spec. It is a factory spec, because they pay for that and to get their name on the cap. It is no more than a way to make money. Just like spec-ing a 0w40 when there is no gidelines to spec a 0w40. Mobil 1 is one of just a few to spec this oil. Think about it. Also the difference between a 0w40 and 5w40 is really nothing.
What are you talking about? Can't understand a thing you're trying to say?!

Sheri'SRT8
12-23-2006, 09:26 AM
I always try to avoid the dealer at ALL costs. And if it's not a serious/expensive claim, I'll even bypass warranty work.

So does self-maintenance void our warranty? If I can provide receipts (for oil/filter) would that hold up in a legal battle if it came to that?
I forget the name of the law, but existing legislation protects us so that we can work on our own vehicles (or have non-dealers work on our vehicles) and maintain the warranty. Here is how I do it:

When I use Redline synthetic, the paper labes come off of the bottles really easily. I peel all of those off, and staple them to the box top of the filter I used. I then write the date and mileage on the box top, and keep all of that in the car. Since I keep the receipt for the purchase of the oil in my office payables, I have records of the purchase of the parts.

You should definitely take a look at the oil filter study that I linked to earlier in this thread. It pretty says that cheaper filters are available that most likely do a better job than the Mopar-brand filter.

SpeedRacer333
12-23-2006, 11:16 AM
I forget the name of the law, but existing legislation protects us so that we can work on our own vehicles (or have non-dealers work on our vehicles) and maintain the warranty. Here is how I do it:

When I use Redline synthetic, the paper labes come off of the bottles really easily. I peel all of those off, and staple them to the box top of the filter I used. I then write the date and mileage on the box top, and keep all of that in the car. Since I keep the receipt for the purchase of the oil in my office payables, I have records of the purchase of the parts.

You should definitely take a look at the oil filter study that I linked to earlier in this thread. It pretty says that cheaper filters are available that most likely do a better job than the Mopar-brand filter.

That is a good read. I've used Mobil 1 filters as long as I can remember. But that article makes me want to go out and put a Mobil 1 filter on RIGHT NOW!

Sheri'SRT8
12-23-2006, 11:38 AM
Definitely. If you want to go cheaper, even the Wix filters work well.

WJ_Jeep
12-23-2006, 11:52 AM
I forget the name of the law, but existing legislation protects us so that we can work on our own vehicles (or have non-dealers work on our vehicles) and maintain the warranty. Here is how I do it:

When I use Redline synthetic, the paper labes come off of the bottles really easily. I peel all of those off, and staple them to the box top of the filter I used. I then write the date and mileage on the box top, and keep all of that in the car. Since I keep the receipt for the purchase of the oil in my office payables, I have records of the purchase of the parts.

You should definitely take a look at the oil filter study that I linked to earlier in this thread. It pretty says that cheaper filters are available that most likely do a better job than the Mopar-brand filter.

Regardless, you are protected by the Magnusen-Moss Warranty Act

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of this law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle makers brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).

Clueless
12-23-2006, 11:53 AM
If you want to take a look at a really cool oil filter study, take a look here:
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.htmlSheri, I just read the filter study website. Interesting and useful info. I’m wondering how current is this info? The only indication I found was that the website was updated in ’99. I also found a different link to the same webpage, this one was updated in ’03. Info looks the same down to the “new” oil filters to be tested. Seems like Mobil 1 filter is the way to go….

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

shsuhemi
12-27-2006, 11:20 AM
Well Royal Purple is still SL classed and they will not lower the wear protection the 40% required by the US emission board to meet the API spec of SM. They also out perform the Mobil oil. Here is an article posted on their site, but was in Corvette Magazine.

http://www.royalpurple.com/corvette_enthusiast/corvette_enthusiast.html

jlandbl
12-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Well Royal Purple is still SL classed and they will not lower the wear protection the 40% required by the US emission board to meet the API spec of SM. They also out perform the Mobil oil. Here is an article posted on their site, but was in Corvette Magazine.

http://www.royalpurple.com/corvette_enthusiast/corvette_enthusiast.html

Does Royal Purple make 0W-40?

shsuhemi
12-27-2006, 02:00 PM
No they have a 10w40, but how does one spec a oil that flows as if it is not there like the 0w40 is suppose to be? How many companies make a 0w40? Not many in the USA and Mobil is the main one so they called for this one. Royal Purple increases horse power and has better film strength. This is how they allow for more horse power. All of you are all ways looking for a way to get more horse power so I thought I would show you a way to gain a few.