: Took run flats off to get snows
ronald mcglothlin 11-24-2006, 09:35 PM Took the run flats off for snows and I don't think I will put them back. The ride is just so much better on normal tires. I think as some others have considered spacers for smaller wheels, I am going to look into this for a spare. I am not thrilled with the spare tire but beats the ride with the run flats.
BAD ASP 11-25-2006, 06:31 PM ron what snows and sizes? i am thinking about doing the same.
CayenneEater27 11-25-2006, 07:48 PM Guys,
This whole snow tire thing is turning into a major issue for me. My new 07 GCSRT8 hasnt even come in yet and i'm already worrying about HOW and IF i should put snow tires on. I live in CT so we definitely get some snow. Any advice or help with this would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Mango 11-25-2006, 07:53 PM Guys,
This whole snow tire thing is turning into a major issue for me. My new 07 GCSRT8 hasnt even come in yet and i'm already worrying about HOW and IF i should put snow tires on. I live in CT so we definitely get some snow. Any advice or help with this would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Im in the same boat as you. All of this talk about snow tires and I'm worried! My truck *should* arrive this week, I've been told it's status is now "In transit" from the factory.
timster 11-25-2006, 08:15 PM I'm going to go with the stock tires this winter. I took a look at the Goodyear website - they rate the Eagle RS-A run-flats a 7 out of 10 for snow traction - 10 being best...
Take a look
http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/results_tire.jsp?mrktarea=Performance
http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Eagle+RS-A+EMT&mrktarea=Performance&treadwidth=&aspectratio=&rimdiameter=&sidewall=
CayenneEater27 11-25-2006, 08:25 PM That's what GOODYEAR rates them at, thanks for the heads up though. I've read from a lot of members on here that the stock tire and rim set up on our trucks has sub-par performance at best for snow and winter driving. I was thinking of MAYBE throwing on some 255/45-20 Scorpions all around..the only problem with that being i would have to find 20" rims to go with them, cause our rear rims are way to wide to fit a 255 tire. This is such a pain in the a$$. :mad:
ronald mcglothlin 11-25-2006, 08:43 PM Pirelli scorpion ice & snow 275/40 -20 on both ends. There seems to be some thought that with the factory wheels being different widths that even though they start off the same size that when mounted they won't remain the same size. As for how the Goodyear tires are rated buy GOODYEAR I more interested how they stack up with the best not just Goodyear. All I have got to do is look at them and I know that they don't have all the good biting edges that a good ice tire or an open enough tread to be a good snow tire. I will let you know in a few days as we are getting snow soon. I have tried the Goodyear's last winter and this and was not as impressed as Goodyear was. As for the size thing just have to measure and see, to put an end to that talk.
timster 11-25-2006, 09:00 PM good to know guys... I'll try stock this year, and if it sucks pretty bad I'll go ahead with some snows
barho 11-25-2006, 09:33 PM Enough already!
You people worry way too much, especially those in the NE cities. I live just north of Philly and get the same type of storms as those in CT (although CT may get 1 or 2 more a year, the storms here are just as bad as those in CT).
The "all season" tires will be fine for typical winter driving. That's why they are "all season" tires. The GC SRT 8 is AWD for gods sake! Stop worrying.
I know how the roads in this part of the country are during storms, and how quickly said roads are plowed, salted and cleared. If the storm is that bad that they cannot keep the roads cleared (such as the 93' Superstorm, the Blizzard of 96' or the 03' Presidents Day Storm), then you shouldn't be driving anyway. Wait a few hours until the storm has passed and the roads have been cleared.
If you really feel the need to be driving during a Nor'easter, then maybe you should have purchased an Overland, not the SRT 8.
;)
CayenneEater27 11-25-2006, 09:38 PM Pirelli scorpion ice & snow 275/40 -20 on both ends. There seems to be some thought that with the factory wheels being different widths that even though they start off the same size that when mounted they won't remain the same size. As for how the Goodyear tires are rated buy GOODYEAR I more interested how they stack up with the best not just Goodyear. All I have got to do is look at them and I know that they don't have all the good biting edges that a good ice tire or an open enough tread to be a good snow tire. I will let you know in a few days as we are getting snow soon. I have tried the Goodyear's last winter and this and was not as impressed as Goodyear was. As for the size thing just have to measure and see, to put an end to that talk.
Again, thanks for the heads up, but dont you think it might be smarter to mount narrower tires like 255/45-20 for snow driving? as I understand it, the wider the tire the worse off you are driving in snow. The factory wheels are the same width?? So you're saying the wheels mounted in front are the same width as the ones in the rear?? If that's the case, that makes life a lot easier! I would definitely like to know how your set up works out for you. Good luck!
ronald mcglothlin 11-25-2006, 09:45 PM I gave the wrong info if you took me to say that the rims are the same. The front are 20 x 9 back 20 x 10. So the problem is, some that say even though tires are the same, mounting them this way makes the diameter different.
autoidiot 11-25-2006, 10:58 PM I gave the wrong info if you took me to say that the rims are the same. The front are 20 x 9 back 20 x 10. So the problem is, some that say even though tires are the same, mounting them this way makes the diameter different.
I refer all you guys to the Driving in snow? thread, especially pages 7 and 8 and beyond. I changed my run flats to the 275 pirrelli scorpians from tire rack onto my OEM rims and was sternley warned by my dealer about potential drivetrain and diff problems citing extreme examples such as fires caused by people using different sized spares on previous AWD Jeeps. Now thats a different story all together having a right and left tire with a dramitically different diameter but an issue remains with the GCSRT8 having 1" wider rims on the rear and using the same tires on all 4 corners. The differnece amounts to 1% and a slightly higher rpm/mile, (agian please refer to the threads i listed above for more detail) the question is whether that is significant enough to cause damage. there may be a small problem with speedo accuracy (1 mph or so) but that is a minor concern compared to throwing off your diff. Anyone out there willing to offer up some expert opinion?
MN SRT8 11-26-2006, 04:04 PM In my view all of you are way to worked up over a little snow. I picked up my GC SRT8 in February 2006 and we had several good snows post-delivery. As I live in Minnesota, when we get snow it can be heavy and it stays around for awhile. My previous vehicle was an Audi A8 and my wife drives a Yukon XL Denali. I would tell you that there is only a fairly small difference between the GC and either of those rides. In thick, new snow you get a little bit of "float" due to the tire width and stopping is a bit worse. I had no problem in a fresh 6-8 inches however. Unless you live in the mountains out west or just want to spend money on your ride I don't know why you'd put snows on the GC.
TRAINER 11-26-2006, 05:31 PM Bottom line. Our RSA's "may" be called all season however I had them on my FX and almost hit someone crossing the street due to ZERO traction. The same day I ordered Blizzak's and never had a problem again. My question is, why take the chance?
Nuff said..
Ink Pump 11-26-2006, 05:34 PM You remember that lake effect storm about 6 weeks ago that hit Buffalo and brought the city to a halt. Well I'm 80 miles west of that and we got our fair share. I had only had the vehicle a couple of days and frankly was worried mainly because of the tire width. However it did very well. The AWD system really did a good job and I felt I had good traction. The only thing I noticed was on stopping. it seemed to want to slide more. I figure snow tires are not going to improve the stopping that much plus I don't want to mess with the stock setup. I got a great deal all ready to go with the Scorpions from my local dealer but decided because it had handled well I was going to give it a go with the stock tires. I hope its the right decision - I guess we'll find out pretty soon.:cool:
danman_s 11-26-2006, 10:12 PM In my view all of you are way to worked up over a little snow. I picked up my GC SRT8 in February 2006 and we had several good snows post-delivery. As I live in Minnesota, when we get snow it can be heavy and it stays around for awhile. My previous vehicle was an Audi A8 and my wife drives a Yukon XL Denali. I would tell you that there is only a fairly small difference between the GC and either of those rides. In thick, new snow you get a little bit of "float" due to the tire width and stopping is a bit worse. I had no problem in a fresh 6-8 inches however. Unless you live in the mountains out west or just want to spend money on your ride I don't know why you'd put snows on the GC.
Same here man, I live in Calgary, Alberta and we've been getting plenty of snow and ice lately. I was worried about driving the GC and had planned on getting a set of snow tires. After actually driving the SRT8 in the white stuff for a few weeks I'm leaving the stock RS-As on it. It handles fine, accelerates without problems and I've had no stopping issues. You have to drive abit more proactively but the same can be said about any vehicle in the snow.
shodanusmc 11-26-2006, 10:22 PM Still waiting for our first big snowfall here in Chicago. To me, when you go WOT in the rain and all you get is a chirp, you have some darn good traction. Yes, maybe you will need to be a little smarter when it comes to braking, but you should not have any problems driving the beast, as say, compared to a RWD Goat or Mustang. But, nothing wrong with doing what you feel is right in your individual case. Growing up with RWD in Chicago you learn real fast how to drive in the snow. Unfortunately, some idiots never learn.
ronald mcglothlin 11-27-2006, 11:42 AM Still waiting for our first big snowfall here in Chicago. To me, when you go WOT in the rain and all you get is a chirp, you have some darn good traction. Yes, maybe you will need to be a little smarter when it comes to braking, but you should not have any problems driving the beast, as say, compared to a RWD Goat or Mustang. But, nothing wrong with doing what you feel is right in your individual case. Growing up with RWD in Chicago you learn real fast how to drive in the snow. Unfortunately, some idiots never learn.
That is the issue you need the best not just for you, but to avoid the other nuts out there. You wear your seat belt why not have tires to avoid accidents. I know we can go but can we turn and stop good enough, is there good enough when we are trying to avoid others stupid moves or even our own.
art warner 12-29-2007, 10:24 PM I live in Missouri, 50 miles north of Kansas City. We have about 14 inches of snow on the ground and I was real pleased with the traction. I have 12,000 miles on the tires right now. I did go out to my land today to cut wood and ran into drifts of 12 to 18 inches, thought that I would have to wait until spring to get home but I finally made it back home. My big complaint with stock tires is the hard ride when the temp is in the teens. I will not replace the tires with the run flats when needed.
bigdadssrt 12-30-2007, 07:51 AM I live in minnesota and we have been getting alot of snow so far this year. I have a 08 with the stock tires and I have no problem driving anywhere. I think alot of the problems people have with this truck or any vehicle is the driver themselves. These trucks drive fine with stock tires and anyone who says different probably needs to just slow down and drive accoring to the enviroment. Just my opinion.
SRTOutlaw 12-30-2007, 03:06 PM Took the run flats off for snows and I don't think I will put them back. The ride is just so much better on normal tires. I think as some others have considered spacers for smaller wheels, I am going to look into this for a spare. I am not thrilled with the spare tire but beats the ride with the run flats.
I seriously don't know what you guys are crying about with the ride of the GCSRT. Its not bad at all. You wanna ride in a rough riding vehicle my SRT Ram on 24" wheels is rough. My jeep is a Cadillac compared to that thing. I had acouple of old fox body mustangs in my day. And those thing were pretty crude also. But my jeep is not bad at all.
Str8Srt8 12-30-2007, 06:45 PM I seriously don't know what you guys are crying about with the ride of the GCSRT. Its not bad at all. You wanna ride in a rough riding vehicle my SRT Ram on 24" wheels is rough. My jeep is a Cadillac compared to that thing. I had acouple of old fox body mustangs in my day. And those thing were pretty crude also. But my jeep is not bad at all.
I agree that the ride is good as stock. I went from an mr2 spyder to this and the ride is night and day in comfort.
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