I was driving home a couple of days ago and i saw a SALLEEN f-150 at the ford dealership, i was very surprised because i wasn't even aware they had planns to build it, anyway they claim 450 BHP and 500 torque!!

http://www.saleen.com/s331_sc_specs.htm

anybody have any more info on these things? ( 1/4 mile or 0-60 times) just curious on what new competition we have on our roads!?:D

Actually I saw the ad for it in autoweek this week. The numbers claimed in the ad is: 6.1 0-60 and 14.8 1/4 mile. I don't find those numbers impressive at all. the Ram SRT10 would literally blow the Salleen's doors off.

actually those # sound like the basic engine and not the supercharged one, they have an option of stock and supercharged. about $10k differnace between them. w/ the # it looks like it should be doing mid to high 4 seconds 0-60 (also claiming to beat the srt/10)

bed capacity of 1900lbs, optional class IV towing package up to 9500lbs, stock 23" wheels, 500lb feet of torque, and the moves to back it up when it gets twisty? this truck sounds like the best of both worlds

if only the Saleen S331 were AWD, i'd have one ordered already! lol

Looks boring - not even halfway as aggressive looking as the srt8.

I'd be cautious of anything Ford puts out on this truck. Look at all the hype surrounding the Lightning and I don't think it ever lived up to it. They always seem to be a couple steps behind everyone else. I remember going to a Ford dealership a couple years ago to help my mom find a car. The kid who helped her started asking questions about my Ram 1500 HEMI Sport. Same hood and ground effects as the SRT10 minus the V10 and spoiler but it looks cool anyway. I told him it just had the 5.7L and he said it wouldn't matter because the Lightning would beat the SRT 10 anyway. When I told him he was delusional he pulls out this sales flyer comparing the F150 SVT and Ram SRT10. According to Ford the SRT10 couldn't beat their Lightning. I was beating these things with my Jeep 5.9 Limited so I don't see how they could make a claim like that but they did. You see the same kind of hype with the Mustangs.

I'd be cautious of anything Ford puts out on this truck. Look at all the hype surrounding the Lightning and I don't think it ever lived up to it. They always seem to be a couple steps behind everyone else. I remember going to a Ford dealership a couple years ago to help my mom find a car. The kid who helped her started asking questions about my Ram 1500 HEMI Sport. Same hood and ground effects as the SRT10 minus the V10 and spoiler but it looks cool anyway. I told him it just had the 5.7L and he said it wouldn't matter because the Lightning would beat the SRT 10 anyway. When I told him he was delusional he pulls out this sales flyer comparing the F150 SVT and Ram SRT10. According to Ford the SRT10 couldn't beat their Lightning. I was beating these things with my Jeep 5.9 Limited so I don't see how they could make a claim like that but they did. You see the same kind of hype with the Mustangs.

Stock for stock the SRT-10 and the Lightning are very close. The owner of the shop that installed my turbo had a Lightning and bone stock it was runing 13.8 at the CA Speedway. Plus, there is a lot of aftermarket support for the Fords and only need a pulley change and new tune to go 12's.

Did you put the ground effects on your Ram 1500 Hemi Sport? Because from the factory it does not have the same ground effects kit or hood as the SRT-10. The hood on the Hemi Sport is a scoop that they bolt into the stock hood like the Rummble Bees. Also, the front bumper and side skirts are also different from the Hemi Sport and Rummble Bee to the SRT-10.


Any ways, I saw the Saleen truck at SEMA and it was OK but the GC looks better, is faster and holds more people comfortably.

I'd be cautious of anything Ford puts out on this truck. Look at all the hype surrounding the Lightning and I don't think it ever lived up to it. They always seem to be a couple steps behind everyone else.
not to split hairs or anything, but since Saleen has new vehicle manufacturer status, the truck is actually no longer a Ford product. Ford ships the semi-completed chassis to Saleen and then they finish the build process. Saleen puts in their own unique interior, suspension, wheel/tire package, most of the body panels, and the motor. my only point being, any performance/power claims are being made by Steve Saleen, not FoMoCo. besides, lets face it, anything with 500hp/tq is going to be a beast anyways

not to split hairs or anything, but since Saleen has new vehicle manufacturer status, the truck is actually no longer a Ford product. Ford ships the semi-completed chassis to Saleen and then they finish the build process. Saleen puts in their own unique interior, suspension, wheel/tire package, most of the body panels, and the motor. my only point being, any performance/power claims are being made by Steve Saleen, not FoMoCo. besides, lets face it, anything with 500hp/tq is going to be a beast anyways
Good point

Stock for stock the SRT-10 and the Lightning are very close. The owner of the shop that installed my turbo had a Lightning and bone stock it was runing 13.8 at the CA Speedway. Plus, there is a lot of aftermarket support for the Fords and only need a pulley change and new tune to go 12's.

Did you put the ground effects on your Ram 1500 Hemi Sport? Because from the factory it does not have the same ground effects kit or hood as the SRT-10. The hood on the Hemi Sport is a scoop that they bolt into the stock hood like the Rummble Bees. Also, the front bumper and side skirts are also different from the Hemi Sport and Rummble Bee to the SRT-10.


Any ways, I saw the Saleen truck at SEMA and it was OK but the GC looks better, is faster and holds more people comfortably.

I have a 2004 Ram 1500 Quad Cab. The HEMI Sport package is the same as the Rumble Bee. I have the stock running boards that tie into the front and rear bolt on ground effects and side skirts, I'm not sure if the Bee does. From the start of the front door back the two trucks look completely different, but the hood and front bumper are very similar. When I first picked up the truck a lot of people thought it was an SRT10. I know there are some key differences, rear spoiler and wheels on the SRT10 being the most notable, but to the untrained eye it looks similar to the SRT. I would think now that most people could tell the difference.

There's been some good feedback to my post which I appreciate. I've heard all about the numbers mentioned here but haven't seen them in action. I'm wondering if maybe there might have been differences within production years where some ran slower. I say this because I had a client who was a salesman for Ford and he had an '01 or '02 Lightning for a demo. He let me drive it and it didn't feel as quick as my 5.9 Limited ZJ. So we took them out one day to race. I beat him off the line obviously but he didn't start to make up any ground until well after I hit 60 and even then it wasn't substantial enough to pass me. I know that with my mods I was probably running about a low to mid 14 sec 1/4, so we were pretty shocked by our results. I had several other encounters with these trucks all with the same result. I don't doubt what I'm hearing here I'm just a little confused with everything I've heard about this truck compared to what I've actually seen. I'd love to get some education on this so if anyone has info about these trucks please post it.

Just an FYI: none of the Lightnings I raced hooked very well and only one was able to make up enough ground to catch up to me. Haven't met any with my SRT yet!

I'd be cautious of anything Ford puts out on this truck. Look at all the hype surrounding the Lightning and I don't think it ever lived up to it. They always seem to be a couple steps behind everyone else. I remember going to a Ford dealership a couple years ago to help my mom find a car. The kid who helped her started asking questions about my Ram 1500 HEMI Sport. Same hood and ground effects as the SRT10 minus the V10 and spoiler but it looks cool anyway. I told him it just had the 5.7L and he said it wouldn't matter because the Lightning would beat the SRT 10 anyway. When I told him he was delusional he pulls out this sales flyer comparing the F150 SVT and Ram SRT10. According to Ford the SRT10 couldn't beat their Lightning. I was beating these things with my Jeep 5.9 Limited so I don't see how they could make a claim like that but they did. You see the same kind of hype with the Mustangs.

I hate to say this to ya but the Lightning did live up to the hype...My truck was an animal after only spending 1k on mods.While true the SRT10 was faster stock vs stock Modded lightnings are in the 11's and 10's. The lightning was a hell of performance vehicle and I would line up a stock lightning against your 5.9 Jeep anyday of the week. Not flaming you or bashing you, just letting you know your opinion of the lightning was way off. But of course you're entitled to it.
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I hate to say this to ya but the Lightning did live up to the hype...My truck was an animal after only spending 1k on mods.While true the SRT10 was faster stock vs stock Modded lightnings are in the 11's and 10's. The lightning was a hell of performance vehicle and I would line up a stock lightning against your 5.9 Jeep anyday of the week. Not flaming you or bashing you, just letting you know your opinion of the lightning was way off. But of course you're entitled to it.
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Man this was an old post you dug up. It's all good and I don't think your trying to flame me. Obviously this was an old post and my comments did bring me some heat on this subject. To start with I've always liked the SVT Lightnings. I have a '97 F150 3 door flare side and I love it. I only have the 4.6L so it's not going to break any records at the track. This was my favorite body style from Ford for the F150 and the Lightning was even cooler. If you read in one of my other comments I had a client who was a salesman for Paul Hurring Ford here im my neck of the woods. He had a silver demo and he let me drive it. I was a little disappointed so we raced it against my Jeep and I beat him. I had a couple other encounters with Lightnings with similar results. Now to be fair all the encounters I had were with older generation Lightnings. I have yet to line up with one in the last 3 or 4 years, they're pretty scarce around here. I know that moded they can be very fast, my comment was geared more towards the claim that a stock Lightning was faster than the SRT10 truck. As for my old JGC 5.9L, she was very quick and I caught a lot of heat from Dakota 5.9 R/T and Ram SST guy's until I smoked them at a light. For what it's worth way back when I posted in this thread I shared my comments and others here with a very good freind of mine who is a huge Ford guy and he agreed with you. He said no way my Jeep could beat a Lightning. I tend to trust most of Brian tells me so I'm going to conceede here that something wasn't quite right when I raced these lightnings. I'm still looking forward to catching one someday with my SRT8! ;) Thanks for your input though, I've never owned a lightning and you have so the credibility goes to you. :)

The 1st gen Lightnings were a good second slower in the quarter than the 2nd gen lightnings. I'm just very skeptical that your Jeep or Ram Sport was running as fast as the 2nd gen Lightnings. Any mods? Did you ever take it to the track?

The 1st gen Lightnings were a good second slower in the quarter than the 2nd gen lightnings. I'm just very skeptical that your Jeep or Ram Sport was running as fast as the 2nd gen Lightnings. Any mods? Did you ever take it to the track?

5.9 jeeps are pretty quick and were actually the inspiration for our srt8s.

stock they can run as quick as 14.8 (obviously not a contest for a 2nd gen but would smoke a 1st gen) and modded they are beasts. my bolt on 5.9 should be good for a high 13 second pass. add a tq converter and shift kit and youre probably in the mid 13s. then theres strokers, blowers, heads, cams, etc. they are incredibly easy to get power out of. mine is as quick to ~20 as the srt8.

The 1st gen Lightnings were a good second slower in the quarter than the 2nd gen lightnings. I'm just very skeptical that your Jeep or Ram Sport was running as fast as the 2nd gen Lightnings. Any mods? Did you ever take it to the track?

As I have mentioned all of the Lightnings I raced were 1st Generation. My Jeep had the K&N FIPK and the Mopar performance ECU. I was running 5.8 or so to 60 but never got it to the track. I'm really kicking myself for getting rid of it when I bought the SRT8. As Dave mentioned there are some really good mods for the 360. As for the wife's RAM? It doesn't beat much of anything Hemi or not it just looks mean.

I thought you said only 1st Gen Lightnings, but I wasn't sure.

As for the Hemi Sport, I got the numerous stories in this thread confused. :p

If you never encountered a 2nd Gen Lightning, then how can you say it didn't live up to it's hype?

I thought you said only 1st Gen Lightnings, but I wasn't sure.

As for the Hemi Sport, I got the numerous stories in this thread confused. :p

If you never encountered a 2nd Gen Lightning, then how can you say it didn't live up to it's hype?


At the time this thread was posted I didn't know there were 2nd Gen Lightnings that were quicker. As I said I got a bit of an education on these trucks when I posted here. I was only going on personal experience because I had nothing else to go on. Didn't mean to ruffle anyones feathers then or now I just hadn't seen the performance from these trucks that everyone was talking about. I still haven't because there just aren't that many around here for some reason. The last one I saw was about three months ago and it was going the opposite direction I was.

So super old thread but I test drove a supercharged 331 ex cab today. Not sure if they make other models but wow it is slow. It felt like a stock 5.4 without 23" wheels would be a good race. Couldn't get it to chirp in first or even want to spin the tires. 3.73 rear gear needs to be swapped for some 4.56's or something. Way disappointed and not even worse talking about. I doubt a pulley and tune could even wake them up to be even remotely fun to drive.. but the side exhaust sounds bad ass....

these trucks are dogs. 14.9 Q/M????? are you kidding me? a school bus could pull a 15 sec quarter with that much power.

these trucks are dogs. 14.9 Q/M????? are you kidding me? a school bus could pull a 15 sec quarter with that much power.

It felt like a lifted f150 on 35's or something... makes lots of noise and goes nowhere

Yeah, I think those wheels really hamper it.

these trucks are dogs. 14.9 Q/M????? are you kidding me? a school bus could pull a 15 sec quarter with that much power.

HAHAHA he said school bus... priceless...

these trucks are dogs. 14.9 Q/M????? are you kidding me? a school bus could pull a 15 sec quarter with that much power.

TFF! :D :D