Is it just me or is anyone else had multiple instances of a Grand Prix wanting to run ? I've only had the truck for a few days now but have already had a half dozen want to go. At first it was ok to spank one, but now it doesn't seem worth the gas ... just wondering if anyone else is having this experience or am I living in some bizarre Gran Prix nexus of the universe ???

Somehow, the idea of 303HP is making the G/P owners so dilusional, they want to run anything that is known to go well. Forget the fact that GM dumbed down the torque on these SS Impala replacements. Or that the FWD isn't exactly known for a short 0-60...

The inverse is true for me... Like you, I encounter Prix's on a daily basis, in fact, there are 3 GTP's in my immediate neighborhood. Not once has one wanted to go head-to-head.

I'm actually envious of you ...I've already grown tired of the routine but can't seem to find it in myself to decline.

Interesting, the three Gtp's I owned ran 12's and they were slow compared to many on Clubgp. Last week a Gtp ran 9.01 at Norwalk. Don't laugh to hard if you get spanked by one.

Interesting, the three Gtp's I owned ran 12's and they were slow compared to many on Clubgp. Last week a Gtp ran 9.01 at Norwalk. Don't laugh to hard if you get spanked by one.

No, that is OK, I will keep laughing :)

Interesting, the three Gtp's I owned ran 12's and they were slow compared to many on Clubgp. Last week a Gtp ran 9.01 at Norwalk. Don't laugh to hard if you get spanked by one.

So, given the way this response is written, stock G/Ps run from 12s to 9s? Someone needs to tell Chevrolet that they seriously miss guessed the HP rating of said car. Hell with building engines. We need to go pull G/P engines and use them for 1/4 pro-mod class....with the approx. 400-600 stock HP they have to be making to push a 3400lb car thru the traps with those times.

Or perhaps you should explain that your talking of the well-modded blown models..and that the "12" is a custom built and tuned unit. And the "9" is done with a heavily modded car. A majority of these things run 14s.

FWIW, the FWD G/P, as fast as it may be, would be looking at tailights from a stop. By time it caught up, you would be well over traffic law speeds. I'll run 0-65/70 on the street-above that, catch me on the strip.

My cobra replica with 975 rwhp weighing 2650 lbs turned a 9.66 at 163 mph. It would take quite a bit for a pontiac gtp to get to that point i would think. No way, no how a stock pontiac gtp gets any where near 12's imo . My blown mustang with 596 rwhp weighing about 3800 lbs turned a 10.33 with slicks. i would hate to think that i could have bought a stock pontiac gtp and beat both of these cars. Sheesh i could have saved a ton of money and effort. imo

Stock GTP = 0-60 in 6.5 seconds 1/4 mile in 15.0 seconds http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0304_2004_pontiac_grand_prix_gtp

There's a guy with a highly modded mid 80's Dodge Caravan 2.2L Turbo who runs 11's, I suppose we should bow to the all the mighty Minivans next. My experience is that a disproportional number of drivers of GTP's, Eclipse's, & late 90's GM F-Bodies think their cars are invincible.

These GTP guys are anoying as hell and just about as bad as the 5.0 Mustang twerps! I was killing GTP's and stock 5.0's with my Jeep 5.9 Limited consistently I can only imagine what the SRT could do to one of these things. Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure yet with my SRT which is odd since I hooked up with one in my ZJ about a week before I traded it in. I've lined up with two post SRT and neither would give me a go. As far as our junior troller claiming 12 to 9 sec times it's nothing new. I can't go to the store these days without seeing at least one GM S/C V6 or a rice burner with a stove pipe muffler and rear deck park bench on the trunk! :rolleyes: Thease guy's are delusional, unless they're heavily moded or running NOS they don't stand a chance against any SRT. So keep killing them as long as you're having fun it's worth the gas. :D

Just to keep things in perspective however isn't there talk of a rear drive V8 GP? I thought I read somewhere of GM considering this. That would be interesting to see.

Interesting, the three Gtp's I owned ran 12's and they were slow compared to many on Clubgp. Last week a Gtp ran 9.01 at Norwalk. Don't laugh to hard if you get spanked by one.


uh huh ... and the fork ran away with the spoon

You guys are funny. Did I ever mention that the Gtp would be stock? Most car enthusiasts don't leave their vehicles stock.

As far as your leaving other cars in the dust off the line, your 1.9 60's are decent for a stock vehicle but aren't that impressive compared to modded cars. Here is a list of the top 20 Gtp's:

1 Matt M 1997 Black 2 door GT Twin Turbo 9.011@150.55
2 Chris Hoenle 2000 White 4 door GTX RWD 9.369@141
3 Scott A. Cook 1998 White 2 door Turbo GTP - 9.649 @ 146.16 9.649@146.16
4 Zooomer 97 1997 Red 2 door GTP 9.986@143.54
5 Scott A. Cook 2000 Dark Bronzemist Bonn 4 door Bonneville 10.711@125.71
6 John T 1998 Black 4 door GTP 10.785@130.37 10.785@130.37
7 Eric Schertz 2001 Black 4 door GSX 10.855@127.57
8 Tim Beek 2000 Red Fire Metallic 2 door GT 10.921@125.54
9 Digital Ken 1997 Black 2 door GTP 10.954@125.97
10 Ed Morad 97 dark teal 2 door GTP The parts guy 11.084@125.01
11 Chris Mercadante 2000 Black 2 door GTP 11.094@121.95
12 Tim King 1998 Blue 2 door Pace Car #300 11.169@120.69
13 Bridgett Meekhof 2001 Black 2 door Monte Carlo SS (CSC) 11.243@119.64
14 Honeychurch 2004 Black 4 door GTP Comp G 11.306@120.933
15 Don Kraus 1988 Red 2 door Fiero Kit Car 11.323@116.4
16 Matthew M Jahn 97 Red 2 door GTP 11.378@123.72
17 Chris Yates 2000 Silvermist 4 door GTP 11.409@117.56
18 House 99 Silvermist 4 door GTP/ retired spring06 11.444@121.61
19 John Costello 1998 red 2 door GTP 11.445@119.67
20 JACKIE KLEIS 1997 MULBERRY 2 door GT

No, I'm not a troll nor do I own a Gtp any longer. Just pointing out that they can be very fast cars and shouldn't always be taken lightly.

I used the same list you borrow info from. And, the way you wrote your original post, and did not specify "modified", yes, you implied stock. And the list of times/cars you put up arent "modded". They are "built". Big difference...

So, what we have is a 1/2 told story..then you bash for doubting you? No one ever said anything about anyone thinking someone else isn't faster. That is guaranteed. Someone is always faster. But your 1/2 truth is akin to me spinning a tale of a buddy of mine with a Honda that will kick your (put car type here) azz. Oh, I forgot to tell you it is a special built 1/4 mile beast that is made for 9s. Same thing.

As for me, the SRTGC is a great street SUV. Not the quickest thing I own, but a great stock ride. I didn't buy it to be the quickest. Unlike the GP, which I would not drive even if it ran 11s stock. Ok, maybe then.

Bummer your feelings got hurt. Word of advise: Stay far from the HUMMER forums. If these guys here make you cry, the HUMMER forum will having you use all of your health insurance benefits for therapy.

You guys are funny. Did I ever mention that the Gtp would be stock? Most car enthusiasts don't leave their vehicles stock.

As far as your leaving other cars in the dust off the line, your 1.9 60's are decent for a stock vehicle but aren't that impressive compared to modded cars. Here is a list of the top 20 Gtp's:

1 Matt M 1997 Black 2 door GT Twin Turbo 9.011@150.55
2 Chris Hoenle 2000 White 4 door GTX RWD 9.369@141
3 Scott A. Cook 1998 White 2 door Turbo GTP - 9.649 @ 146.16 9.649@146.16
4 Zooomer 97 1997 Red 2 door GTP 9.986@143.54
5 Scott A. Cook 2000 Dark Bronzemist Bonn 4 door Bonneville 10.711@125.71
6 John T 1998 Black 4 door GTP 10.785@130.37 10.785@130.37
7 Eric Schertz 2001 Black 4 door GSX 10.855@127.57
8 Tim Beek 2000 Red Fire Metallic 2 door GT 10.921@125.54
9 Digital Ken 1997 Black 2 door GTP 10.954@125.97
10 Ed Morad 97 dark teal 2 door GTP The parts guy 11.084@125.01
11 Chris Mercadante 2000 Black 2 door GTP 11.094@121.95
12 Tim King 1998 Blue 2 door Pace Car #300 11.169@120.69
13 Bridgett Meekhof 2001 Black 2 door Monte Carlo SS (CSC) 11.243@119.64
14 Honeychurch 2004 Black 4 door GTP Comp G 11.306@120.933
15 Don Kraus 1988 Red 2 door Fiero Kit Car 11.323@116.4
16 Matthew M Jahn 97 Red 2 door GTP 11.378@123.72
17 Chris Yates 2000 Silvermist 4 door GTP 11.409@117.56
18 House 99 Silvermist 4 door GTP/ retired spring06 11.444@121.61
19 John Costello 1998 red 2 door GTP 11.445@119.67
20 JACKIE KLEIS 1997 MULBERRY 2 door GT

No, I'm not a troll nor do I own a Gtp any longer. Just pointing out that they can be very fast cars and shouldn't always be taken lightly.

Please provide timeslips, videos, and phone numbers.



Nevertheless, you provided 20 highly modified vehicles that run faster than an average SRT8 GC. Congratulations. Did anyone ever regard the Jeep SRT8 as the apex of performance? Shall we find 20 cars that are faster than the cars on your list?

The average SRT8 GC will beat the average GTP 10 out of 10 times.

In fact, due to the 0-60 in 6.5 and 1/4 mile in 15.0, I found better competition for your GTP........
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8707/slugey5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I used the same list you borrow info from. And, the way you wrote your original post, and did not specify "modified", yes, you implied stock. And the list of times/cars you put up arent "modded". They are "built". Big difference...

Bummer your feelings got hurt. Word of advise: Stay far from the HUMMER forums. If these guys here make you cry, the HUMMER forum will having you use all of your health insurance benefits for therapy.

My bad for not putting in 'modded'. I take it for granted that the majority of internet posters on car forums are not stock.

Believe me, my feelings weren't hurt. Its just the internet. As far as Hummer owners go, they need mental help and should stay off the internet.

Please provide timeslips, videos, and phone numbers.

The average SRT8 GC will beat the average GTP 10 out of 10 times.


I've seen many of those cars run in person, its not made up. I'll also agree with your statement about the average race between the two. I only posted the list since the thread was bashing the idea that a Gtp could beat the SRT.

You guys are funny. Did I ever mention that the Gtp would be stock? Most car enthusiasts don't leave their vehicles stock.

As far as your leaving other cars in the dust off the line, your 1.9 60's are decent for a stock vehicle but aren't that impressive compared to modded cars. Here is a list of the top 20 Gtp's:

1 Matt M 1997 Black 2 door GT Twin Turbo 9.011@150.55
2 Chris Hoenle 2000 White 4 door GTX RWD 9.369@141
3 Scott A. Cook 1998 White 2 door Turbo GTP - 9.649 @ 146.16 9.649@146.16
4 Zooomer 97 1997 Red 2 door GTP 9.986@143.54
5 Scott A. Cook 2000 Dark Bronzemist Bonn 4 door Bonneville 10.711@125.71
6 John T 1998 Black 4 door GTP 10.785@130.37 10.785@130.37
7 Eric Schertz 2001 Black 4 door GSX 10.855@127.57
8 Tim Beek 2000 Red Fire Metallic 2 door GT 10.921@125.54
9 Digital Ken 1997 Black 2 door GTP 10.954@125.97
10 Ed Morad 97 dark teal 2 door GTP The parts guy 11.084@125.01
11 Chris Mercadante 2000 Black 2 door GTP 11.094@121.95
12 Tim King 1998 Blue 2 door Pace Car #300 11.169@120.69
13 Bridgett Meekhof 2001 Black 2 door Monte Carlo SS (CSC) 11.243@119.64
14 Honeychurch 2004 Black 4 door GTP Comp G 11.306@120.933
15 Don Kraus 1988 Red 2 door Fiero Kit Car 11.323@116.4
16 Matthew M Jahn 97 Red 2 door GTP 11.378@123.72
17 Chris Yates 2000 Silvermist 4 door GTP 11.409@117.56
18 House 99 Silvermist 4 door GTP/ retired spring06 11.444@121.61
19 John Costello 1998 red 2 door GTP 11.445@119.67
20 JACKIE KLEIS 1997 MULBERRY 2 door GT

No, I'm not a troll nor do I own a Gtp any longer. Just pointing out that they can be very fast cars and shouldn't always be taken lightly.
On the same forum you'll find FAR, FAR more GTP's with ET's in the 14's & 15's than 13 & below. A dozen fast GTP's out of 100,000 on the road does not qualify it as a fast car. Even a Supercharged/Intercooled/Nitroused/Big Cam Turd would still smell, LOL.

I only posted the list since the thread was bashing the idea that a Gtp could beat the SRT.

Exactly......stock vs. stock.....they can't beat the SRT. PERIOD. End of story. Not even close.

On the same forum you'll find FAR, FAR more GTP's with ET's in the 14's & 15's than 13 & below. A dozen fast GTP's out of 100,000 on the road does not qualify it as a fast car. Even a Supercharged/Intercooled/Nitroused/Big Cam Turd would still smell, LOL.

The ones in the 14's and 15's are mainly the Gt's, non-supercharged. It only takes a pulley, cai, and tune for 13's.

Barho is right, the two shouldn't be compared but they do respond well to mods.

The ones in the 14's and 15's are mainly the Gt's, non-supercharged.

INCORRECT ;)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0304_2004_pontiac_grand_prix_gtp

am i reading this correctly that the factory stated quarter mile is 15 seconds with the supercharged gtp and a 0-60 of 6.5 seconds? what spoonful of bull s*** are we being asked to swallow.:(

The ones in the 14's and 15's are mainly the Gt's, non-supercharged. It only takes a pulley, cai, and tune for 13's.

Barho is right, the two shouldn't be compared but they do respond well to mods.NO, they're GTP's. Between 500 & 700 GTP's on the site you pointed out listed in the 14's & 15's, about a hundred in the 16's, and one GTP listed......17.189@69.981...now that's cooking.

Still not as fast as a Berreta GT... :D

If you read the kill section of the forum sited earlier in this thread (clubGP) you can get a pretty good feel for what the GP community actually believes.

I owned a factory blown version of this V6 in the '96 bonneville configuration ... so know pretty well what to expect from the GP; and hence my original post wondering if anyone else was subject to the daily GP challenge. BTW, in it's stock config these things eat trannys big time (I went through 3). Other than minimal bolt-ons there is a fair bit that needs to be done to the drivetrain.

Almost got a shot at the "fast" landrover on the week-end ... unfortunately he pulled through a red light & I had to let him go ... oh well; in rural Ontario I'm sure I'll see him again

There's a fast Land Rover of some sort? :confused: ;)

Wow, I gotta say I think even 6.5 sec to 60 for one of these GTP's is generous. Most of what I've read on these cars have them running 6.8-7 sec to 60 and very low 15's in the 1/4, which I know is splitting hairs but the fact is either way they just can't compete with sub 6 sec cars.

Now as for that light mod list that gets these cars into the 13's? I guess I'll be porting and polishing my heads, straping on a couple turbofan engines and start racing F16's. :D All kidding aside I've raced tons of these cars in my JGC 5.9 limited before and after mods and never lost one race. I'll admit they hung close before my mods but the result was always a kill.

BTW: Most published times for the stock 5.9Limited have it 6.5-6.8 to 60 and 14.89 @ 98mph. My stock ZJ was pretty close to those numbers. If the stock GT is running 14's and 15's how then did I beat EVERY GTP I ever raced?

2 GP's and 9 Trannies later... learned my lesson. NEVER MOD a GP again.

My 2002 40th GTP went 12.40 and my 2000 GTP/GTX went 13.40. At the time, respectively fast with a boatload (~$9K - $14K) in mods.

I would not back down to a GTP on the road today in my SRT8, simply because I know what they are and are not capable of. I'll run them from a light and laugh all the way to where ever they want to race to, and I'll even run them from a "40 Roll." ;-)

Have plenty of friends who still have them, and they are quick, but even the "standard" turbo-charged GT will only pull high-12's... "some" of the time.

Those 20 GP's listed are FAR from daily drivers. Most of them if not all have no interiors, loads of weight reduction, and so many "problems" they have to deal with the get anywhere near those times.

Half of the guys on that list trailer their GP's to and from the track, another 1/3 of those guys never even take the car off the trailer because they can't get it to "run right."

FWIW - Race the Gp's. Its not a waste of gas. It's enlightment for them.

OK, I am the perfect guy to post about this as I have a 1998 GTP that has 350hp. My personal best is 13.31@106 mph. The car is capable of more but I can't launch very well. My best launch is 1.95, normally 2.1. I know most of the guys on that Grand Prix list and several of them have complete sleeper cars. Looking at them you would never suspect that they are as fast as they are.

My GTP has a S1X cam, 42.5lb injectors, Cold air intake, Borla Exhaust, 3.2" pulley, Tuned PCM, 3.29 trans with 3000 stall torque convertor. The car has 235,000 miles on it and still looks and drives good.

Most of the guys in the car club can blow the doors off my Jeep in the quarter mile. But none of them have the style to match the Jeep. And none of them could take the Jeep on a road coarse. All the cars on that list are straight line runners. After riding in a Jeep at the track at mid ohio, there is NO WAY any of those grand prix's would even stay close to the Jeep.

Most of the guys in the car club can blow the doors off my Jeep in the quarter mile. But none of them have the style to match the Jeep. And none of them could take the Jeep on a road coarse. All the cars on that list are straight line runners. After riding in a Jeep at the track at mid ohio, there is NO WAY any of those grand prix's would even stay close to the Jeep.

Well said. I rode in the Jeep at Watkins Glen.... phenominal.

OK, I am the perfect guy to post about this as I have a 1998 GTP that has 350hp. My personal best is 13.31@106 mph. The car is capable of more but I can't launch very well. My best launch is 1.95, normally 2.1. I know most of the guys on that Grand Prix list and several of them have complete sleeper cars. Looking at them you would never suspect that they are as fast as they are.

My GTP has a S1X cam, 42.5lb injectors, Cold air intake, Borla Exhaust, 3.2" pulley, Tuned PCM, 3.29 trans with 3000 stall torque convertor. The car has 235,000 miles on it and still looks and drives good.

Most of the guys in the car club can blow the doors off my Jeep in the quarter mile. But none of them have the style to match the Jeep. And none of them could take the Jeep on a road coarse. All the cars on that list are straight line runners. After riding in a Jeep at the track at mid ohio, there is NO WAY any of those grand prix's would even stay close to the Jeep.

Well at least someone here is understanding what I was trying to say.

I really hope you guys aren't believing magazines times now. The gp's are difficult to launch to say the least, making an easy mid 14 second stock car into a 15 second run. Regardless, enjoy the Jeep and never underestimate any car.

Luan-

Luan Zeqollari

2006 SRT8 Grand Cherokee
13.54 @ 100.90 - Milan Dragway

What is with that? I'd expect more with your modding history. By the way, you might remember this name. My first Gp and the one that got me started with them was Jack Neal's old '99.;)

[QUOTE=Darkside] Regardless, enjoy the Jeep and never underestimate any car.

QUOTE]


Gee ... thanks dad; any other advice, like: look both ways before crossing the street or don't run with scissors in you hands ?

Well at least someone here is understanding what I was trying to say.

I really hope you guys aren't believing magazines times now. The gp's are difficult to launch to say the least, making an easy mid 14 second stock car into a 15 second run. Regardless, enjoy the Jeep and never underestimate any car.

Luan-

Luan Zeqollari

2006 SRT8 Grand Cherokee
13.54 @ 100.90 - Milan Dragway

What is with that? I'd expect more with your modding history. By the way, you might remember this name. My first Gp and the one that got me started with them was Jack Neal's old '99.;)

Apology accepted...enjoy the board...

[QUOTE=Darkside] Regardless, enjoy the Jeep and never underestimate any car.

QUOTE]


Gee ... thanks dad; any other advice, like: look both ways before crossing the street or don't run with scissors in you hands ?

Nope, keep thinking your Jeep is the ultimate vehicle and can never lose. You're obviously the coolest guy on this site, congrats!

[QUOTE=Lucky No. 8]

Nope, keep thinking your Jeep is the ultimate vehicle and can never lose. You're obviously the coolest guy on this site, congrats!OK, now you see yourself as the "Reasonable" one, LOL that's a good one. And BTW you're the WAY COOLIEST, after all you owned a GTP, woo hoo.

& a TBSS... woo hoo.........
Sorry I had to... :rolleyes:

FIGHT....FIGHT!! :D :p

It's all good fellas. So he's a GP fan. He's considering an SRT8 now so there's still hope for him. ;)

FIGHT....FIGHT!! :D :p

It's all good fellas. So he's a GP fan. He's driving an SRT8 now so there's still hope for him. ;)
His sig:
Considering a SRT8 to replace the Denali

Yea I caught that just before your post SRT8. When I glanced at the post at the top of this page it looked like his sig included an SRT8. Something strange going on with the quote or the post itself. Apparently he's not Luan. I'm new what do you expect. lol :) Simple edit took care of it. Ok so he's considering it, there still may be hope for him!

Yea I caught that just before your post. When I glanced at the post at the top of this page it looked like his sig included an SRT8. Something strange going on with the quote. Apparently he's not Luan. I'm new what do you expect. lol :) Simple edit took care of it. Ok so he's considering it, there still may be hope for him!
I was just pointing the sig out, no intent behind it. I hope he tries an SRT8 & loves it. But until then I'll bash GM vehicles here. You mentioned something strange going on, be aware that there are moles that post on the SRT sites(red&blue) sometimes causing spats over GM(or stangs etc.) vehicles claiming to outrun us. :)

Luan-

Luan Zeqollari

2006 SRT8 Grand Cherokee
13.54 @ 100.90 - Milan Dragway

What is with that? I'd expect more with your modding history. By the way, you might remember this name. My first Gp and the one that got me started with them was Jack Neal's old '99.;)

Jack Neal is a good guy. GTP's breaking into the 13's... now those were tha days man, those were the days. GPG 00/01 was still probably one of the best car related experiences I've had in my life, right behind SRT Track Experience at Watkins Glen.

I think what everyone has to realize, is that ANY car can be made to run a 1/4 mile track considerably, and respectfuly fast. My point was that I will run ANY GP out their, because 90% of them are not even modded, or have an intake and exhaust and maybe a pulley on applicable motors.

The SLOWEST (read: Stock) SRT8 GC will run a mid-13 all day long, not even trying... see sig. :)

Oh, and to oblige on the "mod history" comment... things change when ~$1000 of your monthly income goes towards a house. You start modding that first... now to remodel that damn bathroom.

Oh, and to oblige on the "mod history" comment... things change when ~$1000 of your monthly income goes towards a house. You start modding that first... now to remodel that damn bathroom.
So in a "modded" bathroom, does the toilet flush faster? lol :D

I was just pointing the sig out, no intent behind it. I hope he tries an SRT8 & loves it. But until then I'll bash GM vehicles here. You mentioned something strange going on, be aware that there are moles that post on the SRT sites(red&blue) sometimes causing spats over GM(or stangs etc.) vehicles claiming to outrun us. :)


I experienced that on the first forum I joined. I think they thought I was the mole though. I joined a Mopar forum shortly after buying my 5.9 Limited ZJ looking to learn how to mod out my Jeep. Somebody started a thread about kill stories so with only 2 posts under my belt I chimed in with two Dodge Dakota 5.9 R/T kills I had with my stock 5.9L Jeep. I got flamed by every Dakota guy there and I was in the same family! I thought they were going to throw me off the site until a senior member, Moparman I believe, set the record straight with a post backing up my claims. I think with all the mods that everyone is doing these days you don't know what your pulling up next to regardles of what the badging says. I just don't understand why so many of the GP and Stang guys get so defensive about their rides. If you can't handle loosing a few races then don't do it. I'm sure one day I'll pull up to a total sleeper 5.0 Stang thinking I'll kick his butt and when he kicks mine I'll want to pull over and see what he did to do it. Like I said it's all good. Maybe this guy is ok maybe he's not. Either way I know this. I've raced tons of GTP's, none moded I'm sure, and beat everyone of them with a Jeep. :D

So in a "modded" bathroom, does the toilet flush faster? lol :D

LMAO!
Only if you install the Turboflush 3000. Available for only $19.95. :p

Flushes so fast if you courtesy flush, it'll be your last flush ever. LOL. You should see my BBQ grill. It's the Char-noble 6000. :)

Flushes so fast if you courtesy flush, it'll be your last flush ever. LOL. You should see my BBQ grill. It's the Char-noble 6000. :)


:D :D :D :D :D :D

I was just pointing the sig out, no intent behind it. I hope he tries an SRT8 & loves it. But until then I'll bash GM vehicles here. You mentioned something strange going on, be aware that there are moles that post on the SRT sites(red&blue) sometimes causing spats over GM(or stangs etc.) vehicles claiming to outrun us. :)

I would love to have an SRT next to the TBSS. I bought the TB mainly because of the aftermarket. I'm not here to start any spats, although there seems to be some ignorant folks here looking for one.:rolleyes:

Jack Neal is a good guy. GTP's breaking into the 13's... now those were tha days man, those were the days. GPG 00/01 was still probably one of the best car related experiences I've had in my life, right behind SRT Track Experience at Watkins Glen.


That car took a serious beating! But after three cars running 12's, they never broke a tranny.:eek:

[QUOTE=Lucky No. 8]

Nope, keep thinking your Jeep is the ultimate vehicle and can never lose. You're obviously the coolest guy on this site, congrats!


Gee dad another good one ... perhaps you can offer up some more of your wisdom, perhaps how one should dress in the rain or maybe perhaps if it's even wise to be out in the rain ... c'mon please do share

[QUOTE=Darkside]


Gee dad another good one ... perhaps you can offer up some more of your wisdom, perhaps how one should dress in the rain or maybe perhaps if it's even wise to be out in the rain ... c'mon please do share

Another just for you; It's never too late to get your GED. Or how about, use your hand because your momma is worn out.

[QUOTE=Lucky No. 8]

Another just for you; It's never too late to get your GED. Or how about, use your hand because your momma is worn out.


Now c’mon dad … your suppose to be setting an example for the rest of the kids. Such language - my oh my. Excellent advice, by the way, on the GED. I assume therefore you must have first hand knowledge , after all you’re not one to talk about something you nothing about, right…which I suppose equally applies to the other portion of you post.

[QUOTE=Darkside] after all you’re not one to talk about something you nothing about, right….

What is this supposed to mean? This is where some after school tutoring would help you. If you meant 'know nothing', this is where proof reading needs to be applied. This thread is getting old, and I was always taught not to pick on the mentally handicapped. I'm sure there are other threads that you can bench race in since you're afraid to actually go to the track. Good day Flamer.

[QUOTE=Lucky No. 8]

What is this supposed to mean? This is where some after school tutoring would help you. If you meant 'know nothing', this is where proof reading needs to be applied. This thread is getting old, and I was always taught not to pick on the mentally handicapped. I'm sure there are other threads that you can bench race in since you're afraid to actually go to the track. Good day Flamer.


Gee dad, your a grammar / typo expert as well ... are there any limits to your vast skill set ?

Oh god. I thought this forum was better than that. I guess no matter where you go, how old their avg car buyers are or what car it is you will always get the "i am better than everyone complex."

Hey Lucky No... you're definitely looking like the ass here, just let it go man.

Hey Lucky No... you're definitely looking like the ass here, just let it go man.

Hmmm … perhaps you’re right. Maybe I did react too quickly to some of the condescending clap-trap earlier in this thread. I suppose I’ll need to count to ten before hitting the reply button in the future.

In fact, due to the 0-60 in 6.5 and 1/4 mile in 15.0, I found better competition for your GTP........
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8707/slugey5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

lol, that's funny