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: BMW 335xi Sedan....


AirForce Hemi
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
So I know a guy up here who just bought an 08 BMW 335xi Sedan. Its got the works. Very nice ride. He use to own a Mazda6Speed. He has a Dash Hawk and did some runs with it and posted them up on a local board.

First I did a couple of 0-60 pulls with my fastest being 4.37secs and my slowest being 4.52. The consistency difference is how hard I was power braking because apparently the car likes to be power braked no more than 1500 rpm. Everytime I did more it would bog down and run slower.

Now, for the 1/4 mile time: I ran 3 times with no cool downs between runs and the runs were almost identical evertime with the best being 12.91@ 108.12mph. The other 2 run times varied by a couple of 1/100ths of a second. Surprised the hell out me and it is pretty close to what the guys are running at the track on stockers.


His Bimmer is bone stock. He says that this is what others have run with their Bimmers at a track????


This sound right? I've wanted to run him. Sounds like he may hang pretty well with me????

Jred22
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
I ran an 11.97 on my d hawk. got to the track a few months later in some warmer much more humid weather and did a 12.95. Corrected i believe it is a 12.8. Sooo i dunno how reliable the d hawk is. but those 0-60s he pulled are still impressive!

Jred22
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
And BTW those are some beautiful cars!!

hassanusc
04-25-2008, 05:53 PM
So I know a guy up here who just bought an 08 BMW 335xi Sedan. Its got the works. Very nice ride. He use to own a Mazda6Speed. He has a Dash Hawk and did some runs with it and posted them up on a local board.



His Bimmer is bone stock. He says that this is what others have run with their Bimmers at a track????


This sound right? I've wanted to run him. Sounds like he may hang pretty well with me????

Yep...those numbers are about right...I have a 2007 335i as well and the thing is quick...it'd be a close race with the Jeep...good luck and let us know what happens!

AirForce Hemi
04-25-2008, 05:57 PM
Yep...those numbers are about right...I have a 2007 335i as well and the thing is quick...it'd be a close race with the Jeep...good luck and let us know what happens!



So your telling me a 4door AWD Sedan close to 3800lbs which puts down something like 270ish to the wheels runs high 12s stock?:eek:

bridam
04-25-2008, 05:59 PM
I'm sorry but those run 5.3 to 60

hassanusc
04-25-2008, 06:09 PM
So your telling me a 4door AWD Sedan close to 3800lbs which puts down something like 270ish to the wheels runs high 12s stock?:eek:

no...sorry...the 0-60 times are right around 4.5 for the 335i per dashhawk...i haven't timed the 1/8 or 1/4...sorry for the confusion.

dashhawk on my jeep is also around 4.5 for the 0-60. but these are dashhawk numbers from my side and i know that there are criticisms against using the dashhawk to get accurate times...

AirForce Hemi
04-25-2008, 07:53 PM
no...sorry...the 0-60 times are right around 4.5 for the 335i per dashhawk...i haven't timed the 1/8 or 1/4...sorry for the confusion.

dashhawk on my jeep is also around 4.5 for the 0-60. but these are dashhawk numbers from my side and i know that there are criticisms against using the dashhawk to get accurate times...


You own a 335xi 4dr AWD?

SlickBrick
04-25-2008, 08:15 PM
I also believe they run about the same us stock. I ended up next to one at a light a few months back and we got into it at a 5mph roll - I just saw 335i on the back and was surprised I only had him by a fender to 1/2 car to 60-70ish. I was all tore up not knowing what was under the hood. Went home and found out twin turbo! and saw the spec's - Nice car sorry for the hi-jack!

shodanusmc
04-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Stock for stock, they are a bit slower......and the Dashhawk is not accurate to get a 4.3 stock.....no way. Now, Put in a Viishnu or a DINAN tune, and the hP jumps to around 384 and the TQ is around 400....go with the iX model, and it is a fast ride. With a Dinan, while expensive at 2K, you have a warranty for blown parts, as long as you do not add any non-Dinan part to it. WIth the Dinan, you are mid-high 12's and 0-60 in 4.5-4.8...Do not make me laugh with some of the crazy Dashhawk times I have seen posted. I guess then my E55 would run a 3.8 with a Dashhawk, but in 50 degree weather. with a tail wind of 90 knots, and DR's.

Stock for stock, the Jeep will take it. Tune the BMW, the BMW will take it. TT's.....I hate to say, the Quality is also quite bit nicer. I have driven the stock 335xi, and a DINAN Xi. I have also owned 2 Jeep SRT's and a Bee. SRT's are great bang for the buck, but they are not unbeatable. Now if only I can get the GT-R when available before they go and kill that off. Gas Prices are fcorp mileage are going to kill off the performance cars yet again. I saw it in the early 70's, and it may just happen again.

GodfatherSRT8
04-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Hey Shoda if you get the GTR I want a ride in that monster.

Stock for stock, they are a bit slower......and the Dashhawk is not accurate to get a 4.3 stock.....no way. Now, Put in a Viishnu or a DINAN tune, and the hP jumps to around 384 and the TQ is around 400....go with the iX model, and it is a fast ride. With a Dinan, while expensive at 2K, you have a warranty for blown parts, as long as you do not add any non-Dinan part to it. WIth the Dinan, you are mid-high 12's and 0-60 in 4.5-4.8...Do not make me laugh with some of the crazy Dashhawk times I have seen posted. I guess then my E55 would run a 3.8 with a Dashhawk, but in 50 degree weather. with a tail wind of 90 knots, and DR's.

Stock for stock, the Jeep will take it. Tune the BMW, the BMW will take it. TT's.....I hate to say, the Quality is also quite bit nicer. I have driven the stock 335xi, and a DINAN Xi. I have also owned 2 Jeep SRT's and a Bee. SRT's are great bang for the buck, but they are not unbeatable. Now if only I can get the GT-R when available before they go and kill that off. Gas Prices are fcorp mileage are going to kill off the performance cars yet again. I saw it in the early 70's, and it may just happen again.

AirForce Hemi
04-26-2008, 01:07 AM
OK next weekend sounds like a go........I'll get it on Vid...

shodanusmc
04-26-2008, 07:45 AM
Hey Shoda if you get the GTR I want a ride in that monster.

Deal. I may even wind up at a Indy Dealership to get it!

GodfatherSRT8
04-26-2008, 07:48 AM
cool i'll drive ya there and we can race back.

hassanusc
04-26-2008, 09:30 AM
You own a 335xi 4dr AWD?

I have a 335i not the 335ix...

AirForce Hemi
04-28-2008, 01:01 AM
I have a 335i not the 335ix...

WHats the diff?

Razorecko
04-28-2008, 01:06 AM
^ ix in bmw is awd- their way of saying it

dranv8
04-28-2008, 01:29 AM
ive got a 335i M Sport coupe 2008 plus 645i convertible plus Jeep

neither the 335 or 645 are up there with the jeep,good on country lanes but off the line u are looking at 5.3 for the 335 0- 60 :D

good fun but dont hold a candle to the fun from jeep

mikeT
04-28-2008, 09:47 AM
Stock for stock, they are a bit slower......and the Dashhawk is not accurate to get a 4.3 stock.....no way. Now, Put in a Viishnu or a DINAN tune, and the hP jumps to around 384 and the TQ is around 400....go with the iX model, and it is a fast ride. With a Dinan, while expensive at 2K, you have a warranty for blown parts, as long as you do not add any non-Dinan part to it. WIth the Dinan, you are mid-high 12's and 0-60 in 4.5-4.8...Do not make me laugh with some of the crazy Dashhawk times I have seen posted. I guess then my E55 would run a 3.8 with a Dashhawk, but in 50 degree weather. with a tail wind of 90 knots, and DR's.

Stock for stock, the Jeep will take it. Tune the BMW, the BMW will take it. TT's.....I hate to say, the Quality is also quite bit nicer. I have driven the stock 335xi, and a DINAN Xi. I have also owned 2 Jeep SRT's and a Bee. SRT's are great bang for the buck, but they are not unbeatable. Now if only I can get the GT-R when available before they go and kill that off. Gas Prices are fcorp mileage are going to kill off the performance cars yet again. I saw it in the early 70's, and it may just happen again.


good summary.... yeah a guy with a good tune runs around 12.7 average..... stocker.....they are quite a bit slower than us.....maybe high 13's!

Toe
04-28-2008, 10:11 AM
A co worker has an 08 335xi, and the drag strip opens this friday. I'll see if I can get him out along with my buddies 08 sti, all are stock including mine, lets see how the jeep does.

mortimer
04-28-2008, 10:17 AM
I have a good friend with a 335i twin turbo, took him for a ride & let him drive my SRT on Friday, he said so himself he thought the Jeep felt alot faster 0-60. We didn't get a chance to race much as it was rush hour when we both headed home. He spins alot off the line tho those BMW's are pretty light. The 335xi with AWD would be a different story I think.

Either one (the 335i or 335xi) I think would take the Jeep from a 40mph+ roll I think, they're alot stronger in the top end than our Jeeps. 0-60 against a 335i the Jeep would win, against the 335xi it would be a damn close run!

Dhizzle
04-28-2008, 05:32 PM
i raced a 335xi coupe on the highway and wasnt even close...i passed him and he started before me. didnt even come up and say anything got right off the next exit

AirForce Hemi
04-28-2008, 05:45 PM
i raced a 335xi coupe on the highway and wasnt even close...i passed him and he started before me. didnt even come up and say anything got right off the next exit

What gear were you in and at what speeds?

Dhizzle
04-28-2008, 05:49 PM
What gear were you in and at what speeds?

i think it was from 2nd gear at 50 or so and i saw him start so i had to downshift and then i was going after him. caught up with him and passed him

AirForce Hemi
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Nice.........

kethomps
04-28-2008, 10:01 PM
I just raced one from a stop. I had him until 110 then he passed me like I was standing still. He claimed he messed up on the launch but he has AWD? Nice guy, we each gave the thumbs up and went on our way. I didn't have my dashhawk attached so I'm not sure how far we raced to get to the 110MPH.

AirForce Hemi
04-29-2008, 07:50 AM
I just raced one from a stop. I had him until 110 then he passed me like I was standing still. He claimed he messed up on the launch but he has AWD? Nice guy, we each gave the thumbs up and went on our way. I didn't have my dashhawk attached so I'm not sure how far we raced to get to the 110MPH.

This in your Jeep?

DRE1615
04-29-2008, 08:58 AM
There was a video on youtube a while back with a kid racing his 335i against his brothers SRT8 cherokee. The video has been taken down since. From a dig on 3 beeps the jeep jumped out like 2 cars and just really owned it in the 0-60. But then the 335i crept up and passed it around 80, im assuming, and walked by it easily putting a few lengths on it. I think the jeep just hits an aero brick wall. The 335i definitely has the advantage top end aerodynamically and I have driven them and they really haul. I was surprised the beating the Jeep put on it in the beginning of the race.

I'm sure with all the mods you guys are putting on now, you could hang with them no problem stock. But not with a V2 or Dinan tune, they are in M3 and IS-F territory in a straight line with these tunes.

shodanusmc
04-29-2008, 09:51 AM
If the 335 was the X model (AWD) the jeep would not have jumped out a few lengths. Especially if it had a tune. From a Roll, I was not impressed with either one of my Jeep SRT's. From stop light to stop light, I was impressed.

335's come in RWD and AWD.....

kethomps
04-29-2008, 04:27 PM
This in your Jeep?

Yes, in the jeep.

The question is what do we add to keep the top end speed up?

SmartMoney
05-02-2008, 01:05 PM
The BMW is the faster car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWaSPqFgPg

bridam
05-02-2008, 01:49 PM
The BMW is the faster car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWaSPqFgPg

You have no idea if that's been tuned or what.

SmartMoney
05-02-2008, 01:59 PM
Stock the 335i has consistently higher trap speeds through the 1/4 mile. If it was tuned, it would be bus lengths ahead.

Goldengreek5
05-02-2008, 06:55 PM
I have run my Jeep in the quarter a few times, with the dashhawk running as well. The dashhawk is always .4 faster than the actual time. That would mean that the 335xi is running 13.3-13.4. Exactly what it should be running.
I get my 335i in a few weeks. I'll let you guys know how she runs the quarter with a mile tune and Catless Down Pipes, and a Air filter. :D

shodanusmc
05-03-2008, 07:32 AM
I had 2 Jeep SRT's and drove a stock 335Xi and a DINAN tuned 335Xi. Stock for stock, the Jeep....unless its a 60 MPH roll. A Dinan 335X will pretty mcuh walk the Jeep. Its fast.....and it has the bit with AWD>

Toe
05-07-2008, 07:44 PM
Had a run in with a 335xi yesterday.

Left work noticed a new 3 series behind me, got up to a set of lights and he pulled up beside me. At this point I didn't know what he was. Light goes green he takes off (he didn't stall up but did floor it), I didn't actually step on the gas until I saw the 335xi on his back bumper then nailed it. I was able to real him in and put about a length on them before I realized we were doing way to fast for that road and let off, he kept on for a couple seconds and then slowed down. I'd say I had stopped gaining on him by 90mph, and probably would of slowly closed the gap if we kept going.

They are fast but from a dig I say the srt will win everytime. From 60mph + I think the 335xi would win.

Newfiebullet
05-07-2008, 08:22 PM
I have never raced a335xi in my jeep but i have in my Pontiac grand prix gtp (2004) and i was not impressed with the 335, we left the lights at the same time and he was game,he punched it a 20km/h so i floored it by 100km/h i had 1 car on him and by 200km/h i had at lease 5 cars on him.When we got to work he parked beside me and was pissed he said i paid 71000 for this car i laughed and said i paid 14000 hows that make you feel.

Newfie.

TORQUER
05-07-2008, 08:28 PM
Hey guys. Been busy with a new family member! I have an 08 xi. My buddy was driving my 335 and I was in my jeep on the way to sell the jeep a few weeks ago. We raced from 75-115 and the jeep jumped 1.5 cl and stayed there until we lifted. My jeep ran 13.09 stock and I never ran it again after minor mods. My (ex)jeep will beat the STOCK xi in the 1/4 unless it is a freak like mine was. However, $379 will change the outcome. I have not ran my xi but I think it would run 13.20-13.40 stock which is pretty common from what I have seen on a couple of bmw forums. I was surprised the jeep took the bmw from a roll like that. Good to check in with you guys again. I have been from time to time since selling the beast. The jeep is AWESOME but I really did not need 2 nice vehicles so I chose the bimmer.

TORQUER
05-07-2008, 08:35 PM
I have never raced a335xi in my jeep but i have in my Pontiac grand prix gtp (2004) and i was not impressed with the 335, we left the lights at the same time and he was game,he punched it a 20km/h so i floored it by 100km/h i had 1 car on him and by 200km/h i had at lease 5 cars on him.When we got to work he parked beside me and was pissed he said i paid 71000 for this car i laughed and said i paid 14000 hows that make you feel.

Newfie.

Don't take this as a diss but, what are YOU smoking?

AirForce Hemi
05-08-2008, 02:17 AM
I'm still waiting to run my buddy. I'll keep you guys informed.

teda
05-08-2008, 02:24 AM
Don't take this as a diss but, what are YOU smoking?

Must be some good stuff ,huh? Wonder what he was running against, was it a 335xi or 335...bit of a difference huh? Oh yeah, $71 grand? If the BMW guy paid that he deserves to get an a##whupping. You can absolutely max out a 335xi coupe for a tad over $56,000. :)

Newfiebullet
05-08-2008, 06:26 AM
A 335xi here in alberta canada is 71000 and my gtp is not stock,it is faster in the 1/4 mile then my jeep (its stock) the only hard part is getting to hook,hard to belive?Yes but its true.

Newfie.

TORQUER
05-08-2008, 05:17 PM
My apologies, that is quite a sleeper. What have you done for mods?

legan
05-11-2008, 01:29 AM
no...sorry...the 0-60 times are right around 4.5 for the 335i per dashhawk...i haven't timed the 1/8 or 1/4...sorry for the confusion.

dashhawk on my jeep is also around 4.5 for the 0-60. but these are dashhawk numbers from my side and i know that there are criticisms against using the dashhawk to get accurate times...

ya right, u telling me that my 436HP C6 corvette which weights 3200 lbs and runs 0 to 60 in 4.2 only 0.3 seconds faster that 300HP 3800 BMW??? I call it BS!

SmartMoney
05-11-2008, 12:45 PM
ya right, u telling me that my 436HP C6 corvette which weights 3200 lbs and runs 0 to 60 in 4.2 only 0.3 seconds faster that 300HP 3800 BMW??? I call it BS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKxlFmaBPR4

legan
05-11-2008, 01:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKxlFmaBPR4

and why should we belive that a car shown there is stock?

shodanusmc
05-11-2008, 02:21 PM
They will not run 4.5 stock...around 4.8-5.2 stock.....but Procede or Dinan and you are looking at 4.5-4.7 and mid to high 12's. The Xi with a Dinan will leave you at a stop light.....