Guess this is the romured 9s TB SS. Its also RWD. I could never do that to my Jeep. :eek:

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u306/rpm1_photos/DSC06358.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u306/rpm1_photos/DSC06360.jpg

yikes . . . looks comfy. . . not really a DD anymore, is it? wonder where the cupholders are:)

Steve

Point being you can pretty much do this to any car and run it in the 10's etc with enough juice and motor.

I mean really is it a TBSS anymore?

More HP/TQ does not win races, the guy who is willing to spend more wins.

I think I would choose a different car to take to that extreme.

I think I would choose a different car to take to that extreme.

Exactly! :D

When I go to the track, I don't fool with tires pressure, I don't add race gas, I leave my food and water and bag in the truck, etc. I wanna know how it runs when I am on the street. I get no more or less traction on the track so I figure what it runs there is what it runs all the time. This is not a TBSS going 9s...That's a junked out body made to race.

thats martin's.. aka Neverenough.. hes the one that did 10.21... he stripped the interior to add the cage and is putting it back together.. this is his DD as well..

Point being you can pretty much do this to any car and run it in the 10's etc with enough juice and motor.

I mean really is it a TBSS anymore?

More HP/TQ does not win races, the guy who is willing to spend more wins.


I was going to say the exact same thing!!

I don't think it can be classified as a TB SS when you can look at the interior and still not be able to tell what it is.

I was going to say the exact same thing!!

I don't think it can be classified as a TB SS when you can look at the interior and still not be able to tell what it is.

there is a bowtie on the key in the pic..how about that?...J/K

there is a bowtie on the key in the pic..how about that?...J/K

Very true I missed that!

Those pics are showing the vehicle out of context...The interior will be going back in sans the seats. It will still be a daily driver with creature comforts such as AC and radio. The pics were taken right after the cage install. It is supposed to be all ready for LSX Shootout.

Oh...it might run 8's

Those pics are showing the vehicle out of context...The interior will be going back in sans the seats. It will still be a daily driver with creature comforts such as AC and radio. The pics were taken right after the cage install. It is supposed to be all ready for LSX Shootout.

Oh...it might run 8's

be sure to keep us posted, I would like to see pics of it finished.

Interior is bein put back as we speak! The had to remove it all in order to intall the roll cage properly!

Ok I was under the impression the truck was being driven only at the track and in it's current state. Also, more info about the truck would be appreciated.

Ok I was under the impression the truck was being driven only at the track and in it's current state. Also, more info about the truck would be appreciated.

+1.................

Ok I was under the impression the truck was being driven only at the track and in it's current state. Also, more info about the truck would be appreciated.

His old setup was... 402cid, trickflow heads, custom cam, all the normal bolt-ons, and a direct-port nitrous set-up, RPM tranny, drag radials, stock suspension, 4,850 pounds and I think a 300 shot ?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3HP8IgBYyUM


Dont know what hes doing now though... somthing big from what I hear.. hope this helps

His old setup was... 402cid, trickflow heads, custom cam, all the normal bolt-ons, and a direct-port nitrous set-up, RPM tranny, drag radials, stock suspension, 4,850 pounds and I think a 300 shot ?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3HP8IgBYyUM


Dont know what hes doing now though... somthing big from what I hear.. hope this helps

gotta respect that.

Point being you can pretty much do this to any car and run it in the 10's etc with enough juice and motor.

I mean really is it a TBSS anymore?

More HP/TQ does not win races, the guy who is willing to spend more wins.

...+1, agreed, impressed with the amount of time, effort, and money put in, but definitely not impressed that it is a TBSS. think, all that time and effort put into a Jeep, now we are getting somewhere... ;)

Any more info or a link to the website?

Hey im not taking anything away from it, and a 9 second whatever is fast but damn what took you so long with all the mods available for the LS engines :)

that's cool and all but like i said in the other thread, at that point. It isn't even a TBSS.

that's cool and all but like i said in the other thread, at that point. It isn't even a TBSS.

How is it not a TBSS? I expect it to look just like a normal one on the outside and still can carry 4 people and out-tow any SRT8 with AC on and stereo going.

Please explain...

How is it not a TBSS? I expect it to look just like a normal one on the outside and still can carry 4 people and out-tow any SRT8 with AC on and stereo going.

Please explain...

How is it not a TBSS?? Well for one, it's fast.

Hey im not taking anything away from it, and a 9 second whatever is fast but damn what took you so long with all the mods available for the LS engines :)

The expenses involved in making a 5000# truck to go 10 sec. and beyond is quite a bit more than what it takes to do the same in a 3500# F-body. Add to the fact that most people buy the TBSS and the SRT8 as family type vehicle and not to build an all out race car plays into the decision to go that route. Hence, why he is going to be retain full interior and still be a daily driver.

To my knowledge, I have heard 427 is going in it, not sure what else besides a huge direct port setup. I am sure when it is done, we will all know. On another note, there is word of one out of CT that has been gutted, tubbed, caged as an all out racer. I have also heard this thing is running 8s, but no pics/vids of it yet....

How is it not a TBSS?? Well for one, it's fast.

oh my goodness thats funny:D! alright, lets get on with the thread. The TBSS is sick, I would love to see a some pics of the finished product.:)

How is it not a TBSS?? Well for one, it's fast.

Yeah that is funny, but I would bet there are plenty more TBSS that will out run you SRT8s any day of the week, than there are SRT8s that can beat the TBSS...

If you want a challenge get a couple to KC in two weeks for the TBSS Nationals...

Haha i'm just joking. Well if you're saying it will look all normal and be a functional daily driver car then i guess it is. But just like any other car that runs 9s or 8s, is it really even worthy of the production name? Considering just about everything in it was replaced and it is now a COMPLETELY different beast.

Yeah that is funny, but I would bet there are plenty more TBSS that will out run you SRT8s any day of the week, than there are SRT8s that can beat the TBSS...

If you want a challenge get a couple to KC in two weeks for the TBSS Nationals...

Alright bud calm down, I was just bustin' balls. And for what it's worth i've raced about 5 TBSS' now... none of which stayed within a bus length.

This is clearly a track car. If it is still a daily driver, I feel bad for whoever the passengers may be.

But it is obviously a track car. So why would you have 3 extra racing seats if you could only race with one person in the car? I could understand a passenger seat for certain occasions when a crazy person agrees to get into your truck with a roll cage thinking, "are you a serial killer?" But why???

I agree with what was said before. If you are going to gut a car/truck to make it strictly a track car, why use a TB SS? I'm confused, anyone else???

I guarantee that SS has atleast $25k+ if not more dumped into it, it better run 9's

Well somebody has to say it....A 9 second Turd is still a Turd, LOL. Actually, the level of dedication required to turn a 14 second SUV into a 9 second SUV is astounding & I for one applaud the effort. To suggest this TBSS is as capable as a stock TBSS for daily use would be ludicrous. Oh it could be a daily driver, but only someone willing to make considerable sacrifices would want to drive any fully caged vehicle to work & back. This TBSS is an extreme example of what is possible if someone is willing to do whatever is necessary to achieve a certain level of performance. The same results could be accomplished on any TB (an SS wouldn't be required), Jeep GC, or Toyota SUV for that matter if you had a wad of cash to throw at it & were willing to forego much of the vehicle's stock utility. Best of luck with your project.

That is NO LONGER a TB SS. The truck dosen't even have the stock motor anymore, let alone anything else. At the point it is now, it comes down to having more money than brains.

I can appreciate the time/effort that went into it. I'm not taking any of that away, but please stop calling it a TB SS.

Makes me more excited to finish BJBs, 9's and full interior and stock looking...

That is absolutley retarted....it is NOT a TBss anymore....what is this guy trying to prove? he has a deeper wallet than other people?....I for one would not invest all that money into the rollcage/seats/etc...unless of course this person already has some other sick rides and just had nothing better to do....I for one would of left teh stock seats, adn put 4 pt. harnesses in them as a custom job..

Wow... what a bunch of ****ing haters on this site. BJB's wont be an SRT8 anymore, so will you guys talk **** about his ride?

Wow buy an SUV to gut it....dumb....

The whole point of having a fast suv is to show u can smoke people WITH all the weight.

Gutting it makes it nothing but a frame

BJB's is STILL an SUV with SUV interior

Wow... what a bunch of ****ing haters on this site. BJB's wont be an SRT8 anymore, so will you guys talk **** about his ride?

You're right, his won't be an SRT8 anymore, but at least he had one.;)

Alright bud calm down, I was just bustin' balls. And for what it's worth i've raced about 5 TBSS' now... none of which stayed within a bus length.

lol Not bad....TB SS 0-5.:D

I guarantee that SS has atleast $25k+ if not more dumped into it, it better run 9's

QFT

Makes me more excited to finish BJBs, 9's and full interior and stock looking...

Whats going to be different on the outside?

Wow... what a bunch of ****ing haters on this site. BJB's wont be an SRT8 anymore, so will you guys talk **** about his ride?

How so? Still has a 6.1L Block. Still will have the interior. Most of these quick/fast TB SS dont have the stock LS2s in them. The owners toss them for different motors and what not.

Wow buy an SUV to gut it....dumb....

The whole point of having a fast suv is to show u can smoke people WITH all the weight.

Gutting it makes it nothing but a frame

BJB's is STILL an SUV with SUV interior

In case you didn't read the entire thread and skipped ahead, which is what it sounds like, the dude is putting the stock interior back in, he just took it out to put the cage in (kinda hard to do with the interior in). And again, its still got AC, XM radio and all the creature comforts the Jeep has, plus it can still tow with a GCWR of 11,500.

It still never ceases to amaze me how much hating goes on. Unless you have a association (NHRA etc) approved definition of what classifies a vehicle "still being that vehicle after modification", then drop it and give respect where its due. The dude wouldn't even put a cage in it, but he has to, to legally run it at the track. BTW putting a cage in it does actually add weight, (in an SUV that's a butt load of cromemoly).

it all performance its just a track car now

I'm thinking to turn my wifes 06 Odyssey in to a 8 sec mini van

Moneys not an option and I just have to fit my fat ass in it when all is said and done

What do you guys think! :rolleyes:

I for one am not hating he has the one of the fastest suv's in the country, but it may be a tbss body and maybe 30% of his interior will be but other then that a gutted out trailblazer, he could have done the same thing with a regular trailblazer.

The motor, transmission etc have all been changed how is this a tbss? And if your going to agree that its not a tbss anymore neither is Bryans build, it may be closer to a SRT8, but its really not anymore it is a juiced up WK.

And to listen to the tbss guys say its the fastest tbss in the country is a joke and it will beat a stock or lightly modded SRT8, well I hope so after $25k plus invested and still going, its a juiced up trailblazer.

Ide be more impressed if he got to 9's with his modded LS2 but he wont hense he replaced the motor, tranny and whatever else to get to the 9's. Either way I would like to drive this ss and trap at 130 in a brick, thats nuts!

If you see this as hating its because your brand loyalty has clouded your judgment or your just a douche.

I for one have raced 8 TBSS's at the track with bolt ons and not one came close to beating me 8-0 and dont get me started on how many took ass whooping on highways and streets, sorry headers cai and a tune on a tbss wont beat an SRT8 dig into the tranny and engine (heads, cam) and yes it will. FACT.

I mean really this is like me saying let me drive the a Nascar Charger vs a modded regular GTO and we will see who wins, get real already.

Let the real haters begin

Achieving 9's with that gutted interior isn't as impressive as it would be......

I think the gutted interior is an improvement.... :p


Whether you call it a TBSS or whatever, its one fast MoFo!!! Nice!!

I for one am not hating he has the one of the fastest suv's in the country, but it may be a tbss body and maybe 30% of his interior will be but other then that a gutted out trailblazer, he could have done the same thing with a regular trailblazer.

The motor, transmission etc have all been changed how is this a tbss? And if your going to agree that its not a tbss anymore neither is Bryans build, it may be closer to a SRT8, but its really not anymore it is a juiced up WK.

And to listen to the tbss guys say its the fastest tbss in the country is a joke and it will beat a stock or lightly modded SRT8, well I hope so after $25k plus invested and still going, its a juiced up trailblazer.

Ide be more impressed if he got to 9's with his modded LS2 but he wont hense he replaced the motor, tranny and whatever else to get to the 9's. Either way I would like to drive this ss and trap at 130 in a brick, thats nuts!

If you see this as hating its because your brand loyalty has clouded your judgment or your just a douche.

I for one have raced 8 TBSS's at the track with bolt ons and not one came close to beating me 8-0 and dont get me started on how many took ass whooping on highways and streets, sorry headers cai and a tune on a tbss wont beat an SRT8 dig into the tranny and engine (heads, cam) and yes it will. FACT.

I mean really this is like me saying let me drive the a Nascar Charger vs a modded regular GTO and we will see who wins, get real already.

Let the real haters begin

As to your races, just depends on what your mods are...this crap has been covered more times than a litter box...everyone has their own personal scoreboard, all just depends on who you raced...I'm 2-0 vs SRT8's, but what does that really mean?? There's always someone faster than you are, remember that. We have bolt-on 2wd's WITHOUT headers running 12.3x @ almost 110. Guess you didn't race him huh?

I don't know what mods Martin has planned for this truck, but an LSX motor is an LSX motor...You can argue over specifics but when an LSX block is used it can be made into alot of combinations, sure its not the stock block, but its the same type of block, the heads are likely the same heads that was on his truck that ran 10's, just messaged a little more...I'd say he might run the same tranny, when he ran low 10's it was the original tranny, just with upgraded parts. Both these vehicles use the same methods to get to the same performance. Sure stock for stock it's not close granted...My SRT8 is VERY fast stock, I've outrun a number of rides, but it doesn't respond to mods equal to my TBSS. With bolt-ons my SS dropped over 2 seconds in the 1/4, an SRT8 WILL NOT do that. When you start doing some real modding (I can only compare the times listed on your ET/MPH list) cam only SS's are running low 12's, where as your H/C rides are running low 12's (SilveRT8 is and always will be the extreme statistical outlier).

So it looks to me like mod for mod, when you get past the bolt-ons (which alot of people are) they are pretty much equal.

What I don't understand though, is how can H/C/I SRT8's be putting down 450-480 rwhp and only running low 12's? I spoke with a reputable shop recently for my Jeep and they quoted me these numbers, but they had no track results for these Jeeps (I'm taking low 12's from times on our list). From the results posted on this site, it just doesn't look like the Jeeps have that much performance left on the table, when you consider stock runs 13.0-13.2 and H/C/I + full bolt-ons run 12.2-12.3 VS TBSS runs 13.8-14.1 (2wd) stock and C + full bolt-ons run 12.2.

Now, I know the lack of aftermarket and lack of superior tuning sources certainly impact this, but I'm just calling it like I see it as of today.

I will have to say when your willing to pick up a Jeep with a few miles on it (say 10K), you can get a GREAT DEAL (say $32k), add on approx $3K in mods and be running low 12's for $35K, IMHO it would be somewhat hard to get a TBSS with = mileage to do this, b/c sooner or later the tranny would go and that's a $4K mod if you do it right.

All just my humble opinion.

Achieving 9's with that gutted interior isn't as impressive as it would be......

WOw, nobody can read.. It WILL NOT be gutted when he runs it, everything will be back except for the regular seats. Here is a quote for the guy who owns the truck "I should have the interior back in by the end of next week. It will be completely stock minus the seats. I kept all my factory options that came with the loaded TBSS, power everything, sunroof, climate control, factory navigation with bose stereo, pretty much every option is still in it except for power seats. If that ain't still comfy enough I don't know what is."

And what is up with you guys saying it isn't a TBSS anymore?? If you see an old camaro with a motor swap, do you say it isn't a camaro anymore? It isn't stock, but nobody is claiming that it is.

I wonder what a stock TBSS would run with a gutted interior?

Maybe someone will gut an '08 equinox sport and drop in a ls9 and run 8's. ;)Notice that it now has the "SS" style lower bumper.
http://www.gaywheels.com/chrome/images/9984.jpg

As to your races, just depends on what your mods are...this crap has been covered more times than a litter box...everyone has their own personal scoreboard, all just depends on who you raced...I'm 2-0 vs SRT8's, but what does that really mean?? There's always someone faster than you are, remember that. We have bolt-on 2wd's WITHOUT headers running 12.3x @ almost 110. Guess you didn't race him huh?

I don't know what mods Martin has planned for this truck, but an LSX motor is an LSX motor...You can argue over specifics but when an LSX block is used it can be made into alot of combinations, sure its not the stock block, but its the same type of block, the heads are likely the same heads that was on his truck that ran 10's, just messaged a little more...I'd say he might run the same tranny, when he ran low 10's it was the original tranny, just with upgraded parts. Both these vehicles use the same methods to get to the same performance. Sure stock for stock it's not close granted...My SRT8 is VERY fast stock, I've outrun a number of rides, but it doesn't respond to mods equal to my TBSS. With bolt-ons my SS dropped over 2 seconds in the 1/4, an SRT8 WILL NOT do that. When you start doing some real modding (I can only compare the times listed on your ET/MPH list) cam only SS's are running low 12's, where as your H/C rides are running low 12's (SilveRT8 is and always will be the extreme statistical outlier).

So it looks to me like mod for mod, when you get past the bolt-ons (which alot of people are) they are pretty much equal.

What I don't understand though, is how can H/C/I SRT8's be putting down 450-480 rwhp and only running low 12's? I spoke with a reputable shop recently for my Jeep and they quoted me these numbers, but they had no track results for these Jeeps (I'm taking low 12's from times on our list). From the results posted on this site, it just doesn't look like the Jeeps have that much performance left on the table, when you consider stock runs 13.0-13.2 and H/C/I + full bolt-ons run 12.2-12.3 VS TBSS runs 13.8-14.1 (2wd) stock and C + full bolt-ons run 12.2.

Now, I know the lack of aftermarket and lack of superior tuning sources certainly impact this, but I'm just calling it like I see it as of today.

I will have to say when your willing to pick up a Jeep with a few miles on it (say 10K), you can get a GREAT DEAL (say $32k), add on approx $3K in mods and be running low 12's for $35K, IMHO it would be somewhat hard to get a TBSS with = mileage to do this, b/c sooner or later the tranny would go and that's a $4K mod if you do it right.

All just my humble opinion.

nicely put...
:)

When could we seee the completed pics?
This way alot of people will see that it will have the interior back in.

blah...blah...blah. Here we go again.

blah...blah...blah. Here we go again.
:boohoo: d

There's always someone faster than you are, remember that. We have bolt-on 2wd's WITHOUT headers running 12.3x @ almost 110. Guess you didn't race him huh?



Nope but would have been a good race, never met a race I didnt like.

Its a pissing contest I could care less this point. IMHO

nicely put...
:)

Got to love the peanut gallery.

WOw, nobody can read.. It WILL NOT be gutted when he runs it, everything will be back except for the regular seats. Here is a quote for the guy who owns the truck "I should have the interior back in by the end of next week. It will be completely stock minus the seats. I kept all my factory options that came with the loaded TBSS, power everything, sunroof, climate control, factory navigation with bose stereo, pretty much every option is still in it except for power seats. If that ain't still comfy enough I don't know what is."

And what is up with you guys saying it isn't a TBSS anymore?? If you see an old camaro with a motor swap, do you say it isn't a camaro anymore? It isn't stock, but nobody is claiming that it is.
You're right. I didn't bother to read. The subject wasn't that important.

If he runs 9s on full interior and can still drive to the grocery store with the a/c on, then that will deserve some good props.

You're right. I didn't bother to read. The subject wasn't that important.

If he runs 9s on full interior and can still drive to the grocery store with the a/c on, then that will deserve some good props.

+1


Please one of you TB SS guys post pics when the car is put back together.

Thanks

Guess this is the romured 9s TB SS. Its also RWD. I could never do that to my Jeep. :eek:

Because you can't afford to.

yikes . . . looks comfy. . . not really a DD anymore, is it? wonder where the cupholders are:)

Steve

They’re coming………along with Navistar and XM radio.

Point being you can pretty much do this to any car and run it in the 10's etc with enough juice and motor.

I mean really is it a TBSS anymore?

More HP/TQ does not win races, the guy who is willing to spend more wins.

Yup, TBSS through and through. It’s spending more in the right places is what wins races. You go spend $5000 on rims and tires and you look good. Someone else spends $3000 on engine mods and wins the race every time………but you spent more though…….what’s up with that?

I think I would choose a different car to take to that extreme.

Yet you’ll call a full blown drag JeepSRT8 “badass” right?

When I go to the track, I don't fool with tires pressure, I don't add race gas, I leave my food and water and bag in the truck, etc. I wanna know how it runs when I am on the street. I get no more or less traction on the track so I figure what it runs there is what it runs all the time. This is not a TBSS going 9s...That's a junked out body made to race.

Ignorance is bliss and you've caught the bug. There are prescription medications that can help you.

I was going to say the exact same thing!!

I don't think it can be classified as a TB SS when you can look at the interior and still not be able to tell what it is.

Prime example of illiteracy in America.

that's cool and all but like i said in the other thread, at that point. It isn't even a TBSS.

What isn’t? Why not?

This is clearly a track car. If it is still a daily driver, I feel bad for whoever the passengers may be.

But it is obviously a track car. So why would you have 3 extra racing seats if you could only race with one person in the car? I could understand a passenger seat for certain occasions when a crazy person agrees to get into your truck with a roll cage thinking, "are you a serial killer?" But why???

I agree with what was said before. If you are going to gut a car/truck to make it strictly a track car, why use a TB SS? I'm confused, anyone else???

The seats are comfortable enough to go cruising around town and even a 40 minute drive to a local drag strip. Even with the aftermarket seats, it will carry four persons comfortably. The 3 “extra” seats are extra, they will be used. This is still a STREET truck.

As for you confusion……………we have not created a “track car only” out of a TBSS. It’s still a freakin’ STREET truck that runs on the track too.

Well somebody has to say it....A 9 second Turd is still a Turd, LOL. Actually, the level of dedication required to turn a 14 second SUV into a 9 second SUV is astounding & I for one applaud the effort. To suggest this TBSS is as capable as a stock TBSS for daily use would be ludicrous. Oh it could be a daily driver, but only someone willing to make considerable sacrifices would want to drive any fully caged vehicle to work & back. This TBSS is an extreme example of what is possible if someone is willing to do whatever is necessary to achieve a certain level of performance. The same results could be accomplished on any TB (an SS wouldn't be required), Jeep GC, or Toyota SUV for that matter if you had a wad of cash to throw at it & were willing to forego much of the vehicle's stock utility. Best of luck with your project.

Thank you and well said.

That is NO LONGER a TB SS. The truck dosen't even have the stock motor anymore, let alone anything else. At the point it is now, it comes down to having more money than brains.

I can appreciate the time/effort that went into it. I'm not taking any of that away, but please stop calling it a TB SS.

For what reasons?

That is absolutley retarted....it is NOT a TBss anymore....what is this guy trying to prove? he has a deeper wallet than other people?....I for one would not invest all that money into the rollcage/seats/etc...unless of course this person already has some other sick rides and just had nothing better to do....I for one would of left teh stock seats, adn put 4 pt. harnesses in them as a custom job..

What makes it not a TBSS anymore?

Deep wallets…………pffffffft. Here’s a funny thing. The ONLY people that complain and ***** about what other people do with their money or their car collections are the people who are just totally envious and/or have no money. The mods, seats, harness’s, etc, are to be in accordance to drag strip rules as per E.T. and MPH standing. You wouldn’t know anything about these things yet. You’re still driving a Jeep.

Wow buy an SUV to gut it....dumb....

The whole point of having a fast suv is to show u can smoke people WITH all the weight.

Gutting it makes it nothing but a frame

BJB's is STILL an SUV with SUV interior

Another example of illiteracy in America.

it all performance its just a track car now

And yet another......

I'm thinking to turn my wifes 06 Odyssey in to a 8 sec mini van

Moneys not an option and I just have to fit my fat ass in it when all is said and done

What do you guys think! :rolleyes:

If this is what YOU choose to do with YOUR money, who is it to say your wrong, stupid or insane?

Go for it!

I for one am not hating he has the one of the fastest suv's in the country, but it may be a tbss body and maybe 30% of his interior will be but other then that a gutted out trailblazer, he could have done the same thing with a regular trailblazer.

Nice post and kind words. Good state of mind you have all around. BUT, just to clear the air once again and for the 100th to the millionth time already.........

NOTHING............NOTHING.................NOTHING ............Is being gutted with the TBSS. Race weight has actually increased DUE TO THE CAGE. ALL..........I know it's difficult for people who drive Jeeps to understand so I'll repeat.................ALL, the interior...........including stereo, XM radio, Navistar, carpet, side panels, power everything and stains on the carpet ARE GOING BACK IN THE TBSS!!!!.

Achieving 9's with that gutted interior isn't as impressive as it would be......

I blame school funding on a State level. Is reading really that hard now-a-days?

WOw, nobody can read..

I see it seems to be a far worst problem than I originally thought. I don't know if I need to contact my congressman or Chrysler.

+1


Please one of you TB SS guys post pics when the car is put back together.

Thanks

Pic's will come as progress is made. We have no secrets to hide and will gladly share all.

Stay tuned.

Bilyman you're superior to all of us because you have XM radio and Navistar which you reference multiple times in your post......well said....

I'm impressed

Yet you’ll call a full blown drag JeepSRT8 “badass” right?


YES............

I'm sorry but some of you people are pretty ridiculous. It's funny that a lot of the points against the TBSS like the fact that it "doesn't even have the stock motor" are pretty ironic in light of all the people applauding dropping a 426 in the Jeep. Is the big build on this forum still a Jeep? Maybe if the guy throws some leds and hids in the TBSS and takes videos of himself driving around town he'll get some respect from youngmedic...

I'm sorry but some of you people are pretty ridiculous. It's funny that a lot of the points against the TBSS like the fact that it "doesn't even have the stock motor" are pretty ironic in light of all the people applauding dropping a 426 in the Jeep. Is the big build on this forum still a Jeep? Maybe if the guy throws some leds and hids in the TBSS and takes videos of himself driving around town he'll get some respect from youngmedic...

Maybe....maybe not....we'll see:rolleyes:

In the meantime you can go fondle his TBSS balls and pour his tea;)


This may just be an age gap thing. I sometimes forget that there are youngins here. Me. I'd never put huge rims on my car or spend my time on leds all over the place or take videos of myself driving around and edit in rap music. Hell. I'd never spend $10k on rims for a $45k car. I'd rather just buy a more expensive car to begin with. But, it's a different generation and, when I was younger, I used to be really into visual mods as well. To each his own, I guess.

I'm seeing a pattern here.........:confused:

Or maybe i'm just a stupid youngin who shouldn't voice my opinion without being singled out because of my mods and videos....

If only i went to Stanford like my little brother i'd have Bridam's respect.....:boohoo:

I'm sorry but some of you people are pretty ridiculous. It's funny that a lot of the points against the TBSS like the fact that it "doesn't even have the stock motor" are pretty ironic in light of all the people applauding dropping a 426 in the Jeep. Is the big build on this forum still a Jeep? Maybe if the guy throws some leds and hids in the TBSS and takes videos of himself driving around town he'll get some respect from youngmedic...

I'm with bridam on this one. Since joining this forum, I have always felt as if I was in the presents of people with class, and knowlege, and intellegence. Just because it happends to be a GM product everyone is hating. If it was the same mods, or even the same amount of scratch spent on a SRT everyone would be loving it.
Maybe I don't have srt8 blinders or something but who gives a sh!t who makes, if it has the stock block, or anything else. Do you guys feel threatened or something? It's not stock, no one said it was better. The original thread was't even posted by a TBSS owner showing off.
CALM DOWN and quit being babies. "wawawaw it's faster than mine, I'm going to make up a bunch of excuses and hate on it!"

IT IS A TBSS, check the VIN. It's just highly modified and fast as hell. GET OVER IT.

HAVE SOME CLASS GUYS.

The only reason anyone should hate on a TBSS guy, is if they come to this forum with ignorance claiming the TBSS is faster stock or something like that.

GROW UP.

I'm with bridam on this one. Since joining this forum, I have always felt as if I was in the presents of people with class, and knowlege, and intellegence. Just because it happends to be a GM product everyone is hating. If it was the same mods, or even the same amount of scratch spent on a SRT everyone would be loving it.
Maybe I don't have srt8 blinders or something but who gives a sh!t who makes, if it has the stock block, or anything else. Do you guys feel threatened or something? It's not stock, no one said it was better. The original thread was't even posted by a TBSS owner showing off.
CALM DOWN and quit being babies. "wawawaw it's faster than mine, I'm going to make up a bunch of excuses and hate on it!"

IT IS A TBSS, check the VIN. It's just highly modified and fast as hell. GET OVER IT.

HAVE SOME CLASS GUYS.

The only reason anyone should hate on a TBSS guy, is if they come to this forum with ignorance claiming the TBSS is faster stock or something like that.

GROW UP.

That's cool and all but speak for Billyman.....

The original posted nothing about the interior being put back in or anything so many of us assumed the owner took it to th extreme which most of us wouldn't do so to our Jeeps.....

Billyman was just defending the truth, and setting the record straight. You think you wouldn't "pop off" on a TBSS forum if they were VERY mistaken on one of our projects?

About the interior; I was under the same impression when I post
"I would choose a different car to take that extreme"

In my optinion we all made ourselves look like @ssholes.

I'm gonna ask a serious question, since I have a JGC SRT8, I'm just trying to get some folks experiences and see what the potential is...

What is the fastest H/C/I stock shortblock NA SRT8? What is the "average" ET for these mods and how's the durability of the set up (does it but undue pressure on the tranny)? If I were to pull the trigger on this what shop should I use?

I'm gonna do this on my TBSS and I might do it on the SRT8...it would be kinda cool to do it on both, then race em'.

The original posted nothing about the interior being put back in or anything so many of us assumed the owner took it to th extreme which most of us wouldn't do so to our Jeeps.....
Well, post #7 alluded to the fact and I clearly stated it in post #11 that the interior was going back in, but too many looked at first post only and replied instead of doing the smart thing and reading the rest of the thread before posting a dumbass response.

Is there any more info about this build? More pictures and details would be cool.

Or we can continue to talk about the interior that's going back in.

Any idea on how much $$$$ the owner has into the build?

I blame school funding on a State level. Is reading really that hard now-a-days?

Apparently so because you completely ignored my response after that. Here, let me help you:
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showpost.php?p=174081&postcount=53

Apparently so because you completely ignored my response after that. Here, let me help you:
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showpost.php?p=174081&postcount=53

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Yeah that is funny, but I would bet there are plenty more TBSS that will out run you SRT8s any day of the week, than there are SRT8s that can beat the TBSS...

If you want a challenge get a couple to KC in two weeks for the TBSS Nationals...

so i guess having more of them out there makes it a real special ride. lol its not about quantity here SON it is about quality. bottom line, get your fastest POS TBSS and if one of us* wants to throw down i am sure you will be sorry. And once again---i do respect a fast car no matter what make or model, but when it comes to competitors and comparing numbers, i got to say ride for ride if they are both maxed in mods, the Jeep WILL prevail hands down.

*-us referring to the few on this forum that most envy. The elite group who put the SRT where it should be, at the top. not to mention how they could and would take down any TBSS no matter how transformed it is. I one day hope to be part of this group. ;)

A nice pm I received from Youngmedic proves my point.
Do you have anything else better to do than to make negative comments towards me?

Why do you care what i do anyways?

What i did from the age of 18 till now(23) is fine in most peoples eyes. I like videotaping stuff though I only upload car stuff.

Not sure what you have against me but you seem to expend a lot of energy in going out of your way to put me down....

It's ok i like that....tells me i'm the $hit and you can't stand it.

Kudos....old man....go defend some rapists or somebody who cares to hears you run ur highhorse mouth....

-Paul

I really don't care what he does with his car. I called him out for going on about another guy's ride You see, there are different strokes for different folks. He is more than happy to call another guy's car a turd but takes great offense to anyone even perceived as criticizing his ride (I see that you've since edited your post). And I wasn't criticizing his ride at all. If I were, I would say that people aren't necessarily in awe of his ride, but are instead thinking that he is a jackass driving around (I seem to remember a thread about donuts or something in a parking lot). And I actually seem to remember defending him the last time a thread went bad-but I guess he took offense to that as well.

And, it's funny that he implies I am somehow jealous of the things he does. How must the TBSS folks feel when we continually put down their rides? Do you think someone with a ferrari or a lambo wastes the time to even consider hating the srt8? Probably not. So why do you guys care what a TBSS does or does not do? We all made the decision with our pocket book, isn't that enough. When someone goes to great lengths to disparage another car, you might draw the conlcusion that the other guy feels threatened (and I'm certainly not threatened by Paul's ride). At first we say the TBSS is slower stock for stock. Granted. Now that we've got TBSS's faster than ours, all we can say is that it's still a turd--pretty pathetic. And all it does is incite the TBSS guys to come over and defend their honor (which is also quite silly).

It's also pretty funny that, when it comes up that an ML63 will walk the SRT8 at high speed, people here say that the SRT8 is better because it would destroy the Merc if you spent the difference in price on mods. Why does that argument sound familiar?

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Did you put butter on that? I only want some if you added butter.

A nice pm I received from Youngmedic proves my point.


I really don't care what he does with his car. I called him out for going on about another guy's ride You see, there are different strokes for different folks. He is more than happy to call another guy's car a turd but takes great offense to anyone even perceived as criticizing his ride (I see that you've since edited your post). And I wasn't criticizing his ride at all. If I were, I would say that people aren't necessarily in awe of his ride, but are instead thinking that he is a jackass driving around (I seem to remember a thread about donuts or something in a parking lot). And I actually seem to remember defending him the last time a thread went bad-but I guess he took offense to that as well.

And, it's funny that he implies I am somehow jealous of the things he does. How must the TBSS folks feel when we continually put down their rides? Do you think someone with a ferrari or a lambo wastes the time to even consider hating the srt8? Probably not. So why do you guys care what a TBSS does or does not do? We all made the decision with our pocket book, isn't that enough. When someone goes to great lengths to disparage another car, you might draw the conlcusion that the other guy feels threatened (and I'm certainly not threatened by Paul's ride). At first we say the TBSS is slower stock for stock. Granted. Now that we've got TBSS's faster than ours, all we can say is that it's still a turd--pretty pathetic. And all it does is incite the TBSS guys to come over and defend their honor (which is also quite silly).

It's also pretty funny that, when it comes up that an ML63 will walk the SRT8 at high speed, people here say that the SRT8 is better because it would destroy the Merc if you spent the difference in price on mods. Why does that argument sound familiar?

doooode! first off it's our right as Jeep owners on a forum intended for OUR use. there is no place for TBSS trash talking on our site, and if it happens to come our way DAMN RIGHT! we are going to rip him one. Think your point would be better received if there were JEEP owners going on the TBSS site saying what we have, but we dont, or atleast I dont. If i did i would expect to be flamed for being right or wrong in what i say, it is human nature. i do know this thread wasnt started by a TBSS owner but one must expect that putting a TBSS thread will only attract TBSS guys and then it all goes south from there. not bashing anyones efforts, only putting it all back into perspective once the dust settles. And what's with the dumb ML63 comment anyway?

doooode! first off it's our right as Jeep owners on a forum intended for OUR use. there is no place for TBSS trash talking on our site, and if it happens to come our way DAMN RIGHT! we are going to rip him one. Think your point would be better received if there were JEEP owners going on the TBSS site saying what we have, but we dont, or atleast I dont. If i did i would expect to be flamed for being right or wrong in what i say, it is human nature. i do know this thread wasnt started by a TBSS owner but one must expect that putting a TBSS thread will only attract TBSS guys and then it all goes south from there. not bashing anyones efforts, only putting it all back into perspective once the dust settles. And what's with the dumb ML63 comment anyway?

Guess the ML63 comment went over your head... The TBSS guys always justify their purchase on price point and the fact that they could create a ride faster than ours if they spent the difference on price on mods. We always rebuff that point. Yet, that's the very point we seem to make when there's a faster more expensive ride out there. Getting it yet?

Another point is put up or shut up. If the TBSS guys have a fast one, make one faster. Don't cry that it isn't even a TBSS any more or that it's still a turd. That's what losers do--make excuses. Gentlemen respect when the other side comes up with something sick.

doooode! first off it's our right as Jeep owners on a forum intended for OUR use. there is no place for TBSS trash talking on our site, and if it happens to come our way DAMN RIGHT! we are going to rip him one. Think your point would be better received if there were JEEP owners going on the TBSS site saying what we have, but we dont, or atleast I dont. If i did i would expect to be flamed for being right or wrong in what i say, it is human nature. i do know this thread wasnt started by a TBSS owner but one must expect that putting a TBSS thread will only attract TBSS guys and then it all goes south from there. not bashing anyones efforts, only putting it all back into perspective once the dust settles. And what's with the dumb ML63 comment anyway?

I nominate you ass idiot of the month.

Did you put butter on that? I only want some if you added butter.

mmmmm, butter http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w199/ryantafelski/drool.gif

I nominate you ass idiot of the month.

Well. Your opinion doesn't really matter here

I nominate you ass idiot of the month.

you alreadey were nominated for ass of the year on this forum, so have fun with it. BUDDY

Because you can't afford to.

Stay tuned.

I cant afford to gut my Jeep? Are you joking? Why the **** would I gut my 40k vehicle? Good one.....:confused:

Just get your **** put back together ans how us some pics of your ride in track/street trim and make us shut up.

I'm sorry but some of you people are pretty ridiculous. It's funny that a lot of the points against the TBSS like the fact that it "doesn't even have the stock motor" are pretty ironic in light of all the people applauding dropping a 426 in the Jeep. Is the big build on this forum still a Jeep? Maybe if the guy throws some leds and hids in the TBSS and takes videos of himself driving around town he'll get some respect from youngmedic...


From my undersatnding the 426 motors are bored/stroked out 6.1L Hemis. Still the same block from the factory. You TB SS guys are taking the LS2 motors out completely and useing a different LSX Motor. Like what was posted earlier It(to me anyways) would be more impressive if all these great times where with the same block.

Guess the ML63 comment went over your head... The TBSS guys always justify their purchase on price point and the fact that they could create a ride faster than ours if they spent the difference on price on mods. We always rebuff that point. Yet, that's the very point we seem to make when there's a faster more expensive ride out there. Getting it yet?

Another point is put up or shut up. If the TBSS guys have a fast one, make one faster. Don't cry that it isn't even a TBSS any more or that it's still a turd. That's what losers do--make excuses. Gentlemen respect when the other side comes up with something sick.

I made that comment because I wasnt aware there were any other SUV's out there that could even compete. hahahahahahahahaha

I cant afford to gut my Jeep? Are you joking? Why the **** would I gut my 40k vehicle? Good one.....:confused:

Just get your **** put back together ans how us some pics of your ride in track/street trim and make us shut up.




From my undersatnding the 426 motors are bored/stroked out 6.1L Hemis. Still the same block from the factory. You TB SS guys are taking the LS2 motors out completely and useing a different LSX Motor. Like what was posted earlier It(to me anyways) would be more impressive if all these great times where with the same block.

wow, couldnt have said it any better than that....CASE CLOSED!
...and on a side note, doesnt this bring to mind the movie "One Crazy Summer" (1986) where they rip that ferrari engine out and drop it in that beat up sail boat so they could win the race? lol

blah blah blah, i drive an Envoy, blah blah blah

Let me say that most of the time TBSS owners can appreciate your rides as witnessed here: http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10458
and intermixed in this thread: http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7326 And I will reiterate that I like both vehicles for different reasons

Honestly, on any forum you go to there will be haters and there will be people that respect the other vehicles. There is always going to be the controversy of the SRT8 vs TBSS in price point vs performance value. I think everyone knows where that will head.

Everyone wants to feel they have the superior ride for various reasons, whether it be money spent, performance, etc. and will try to find ways to justify their decision. Why the smack always gets out of hand is beyond me though.

For more information about said TBSS of this thread, Billyman is part of the building team for the vehicle. I am sure we can post more pics of it when it is completed, hopefully videos as well.

And for those that talk about changing out the engines, if I put a 413 stroker in my truck would it still be considered a TBSS?

Let me say that most of the time TBSS owners can appreciate your rides as witnessed here: http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10458
and intermixed in this thread: http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7326 And I will reiterate that I like both vehicles for different reasons

Honestly, on any forum you go to there will be haters and there will be people that respect the other vehicles. There is always going to be the controversy of the SRT8 vs TBSS in price point vs performance value. I think everyone knows where that will head.

Everyone wants to feel they have the superior ride for various reasons, whether it be money spent, performance, etc. and will try to find ways to justify their decision. Why the smack always gets out of hand is beyond me though.

For more information about said TBSS of this thread, Billyman is part of the building team for the vehicle. I am sure we can post more pics of it when it is completed, hopefully videos as well.

And for those that talk about changing out the engines, if I put a 413 stroker in my truck would it still be considered a TBSS?

blah blah blah, i'm MikeG, i made a good point, blah blah blah

I bough a JEEP SRT8 so obviously I like it better that other sport SUVs including TBSS. However, I like fast anything and that thing seems to be freaking fast so me likey :)

When I bought my SRT8 a TBSS was a close second and if it would have had a better interior I might have gone that route.

I like both SUV's beating up on Mustangs and camaros, however since I own an SRT I am somewhat biased.

I believe most of the people on here got confused that someone was stripping the interior and make a full out race TB SS and claiming how fast it was. Seems to be a big misunderstanding.


I think we all really love each other deep down!

VeyronSRT8,

clear out your PM box....

VeyronSRT8,

clear out your PM box....

consider it done. lol

I gave up reading long ago..... I for one am impressed. Takes alot to make anything go that fast. If the weight is the same, it can be driven without overheating on a 90 degree day with the windows up, and still whip ass the track then we all should be impressed.

F'n whiners on this forum- at this time I am kinda disgraced to be associated with it due to all the 12 year old girls trying to defend the allmighty SRT8. Give me a f'n break. I'm leaving and trading my **** in for some VTEC POS where this type of behavior is expected.

F'n *****es.

blah blah blah, i'm MikeG, i made a good point, blah blah blah

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any suv running 9's is sick in my book! ......although I do agree that swapping for a different engine.....makes it a little harder to call it truly a tbss. Awesome ride, and I'd love to see that thing run.....but I still would'nt trade you for my GCSRT8!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2022403998

LOL a trash talker from Albania? Haha next thing you know my relatives in Afghanistan will chime in! Gentlemen, really whats the big fuss! Forget the fighting, just plan out a shoot out for when some crazy guy on here builds a monster SRT!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2022403998

:D I think Bridam is implying this shoot out should take place in south park colorado, then they with have a job!

:rolleyes:


you're truck has different exhaust, headlights and stereo....hardly a srt8

i just got served.

And for those that talk about changing out the engines, if I put a 413 stroker in my truck would it still be considered a TBSS?

If thats the stock block that comes in the TB SS yes its still a TB SS. To me not a SRT8 Jeep. I'm just pointing out that once IMO you change motors say put a LS7 for a Z06 in your TB SS its a different vehicle in my eyes.What would you call a SRT8 with a new 08 600hp Viper motor in it? I feel it looks better to have a vehicle that still retains a lot of the factory equiment running such great times. So yes having a stroke/bored out LS2 is still considered an TB SS.:cool:

When I bought my SRT8 a TBSS was a close second and if it would have had a better interior I might have gone that route.

I like both SUV's beating up on Mustangs and camaros, however since I own an SRT I am somewhat biased.

I believe most of the people on here got confused that someone was stripping the interior and make a full out race TB SS and claiming how fast it was. Seems to be a big misunderstanding.


I think we all really love each other deep down!


I found these pics that were posted up from another TB SS owner on a local board. That is what he posted and said about the TB SS.

i just got served.

Ouch, burn!

You're a tough guy Bridam....post my pm and try to make a show out of it when nobody even cared....

I'm impressed....good effort daddy:)

You're a tough guy Bridam....post my pm and try to make a show out of it when nobody even cared....

I'm impressed....good effort daddy:)

LOL Yeah. Guess people are used to your antics by now

i just got served.

Ha! Here you go-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9jEJg-K0Q&feature=related

Honestly, who give two flying fu(ks what this thing has in it. I win the lotto tomorrow and I might just drop a twin turbo viper block in my $hit. GM makes a couple of nice rides- the z06, the denali. I read about the 392's, the 426's and drool - and take care of myself. I had a little extra glue and chose the srt8 cause I like the way it looked and performed. Having said that my buddys F430 makes me look ridiculous and I would kill to have one. Brand loyalty is retarded...Get the best thing you can. This TBSS would kill my current jeep, but my babyseat would fit the $hits in it.

Brand loyalty is retarded

This man speaks the truth!