went by my local tire place and asked them what i should do about my winter tire situation and they suggested i use a mag spacer and i would open up the horizon to allot of mags .so we tried the spacer and found some used intrepid 17" chrome rims to go with nokia winter tires i was amazed on how easy this problem got solved .


please let me know on your thoughts on this technique and what you think about nokian winter tires

yes i know 17" rims wont look as nice as the 20's but at least im hopping to avoid a smash

here are the pics i took of the spacer and the rim

looks neat!! can you take a front pic with the tires mounted to see how wide the track is?

WOW!! That would be awesome!!! All that with just a spacer?What is the cost?I would do that in a heart beat

spacers 70 each used rims 200 each + tires

you guys are gonna be pimpin in the winter...

i cant take pics now cuz i dont have them on yet , im gonna delay putting them on till the last minute .

Please post pick's ASAP!!!!:)

I really hope this works but here's the problem that I see. It's not the depth that's so much of an issue. If it was that then the spacer would make sense. The problem lies with the length of the Brembo's.
With your front wheel on, measure the distance from the tip of the rotor (the part that is closest to the inside of the wheel) to the inside of the wheel. That distance is only 1 1/2 inches. That rules out the 17" and 18" and leaves us with 19" or 20"s.
And, with a bolt pattern of 5x5 and an offset of 35-42. our choices are limited for cheap wheels. If you don't mind spending $500 + per wheel, plus tires then I say go for it..

I'm just curious?? What is this "winter" thing that you guys are talking about?? :)

Well,the jeep does not handle well in the rain,and in the snow with 20's it is going to be an mess.So,I wanted to put on an 18" wheel with snow tires to combat the problem.I live in Nj and we can get smoe good snow up here

Here's another concern with using spacers. The strength may be compromised somewhat. Years ago, when I worked at a Speed Shop, we sold similar looking adapters. They were not recommended for high HP vehicles that were used for racing. Now I realize that we don't have Pro Stockers here, but the GC is posting 1/4 mile times that most street/strip cars would have envied back then. So, if you decide to use spacers, check the lug torque often & try to resist the urge to pull those 1.5 G holeshots. Remember, it doesn't snow every day & those sunny, dry-road winter days are very tempting.:)

we mounted the rims and spacers in front and back and it cleared beautifully

and no pics?

Must Have Pics!!

well we tried the rims plus the spacer and it cleared

You and I are obviously having different experiences wit the Jeep in the rain. I've driven mine in the rain a ton and absolutely LOVE how it handles in the rain.

I am sure you are not runningh the stock tires.I get my TC light on all the time in the rain around turns and I get alot of understeer.

I ran the stockers through a Seattle spring with plenty of rain. I don't drive like a madman or anything, but I loved the handling in the rain. I drove it exactly the same as I do on dry roads, with the possible exception of pulling from a stop, around a corner (like pulling out of a parking lot), which I tend to slow my roll on a bit.

Well I wish I could say the same for mine,but the way it sits it's not great in the rain and it would be horrific in the snow

I'm just curious?? What is this "winter" thing that you guys are talking about?? :)

If you ever discover it, just wait for it to melt off of the streets and you will do just fine.:)

If you go looking for it, be warned. Some vehicles may be able to go in the snow/ice/slush, but they all stop just the same.

trees and gaurd rails stops them quick. i went o my dealer about this issue and they gave the local tire shot some dimensions to work with end we're getting a set of rims for about 300 or so. ill let yah guys know by novermber 18th when theyre on

I'm reeeeeally curious as to what they come up with. I have spent, no kidding here, at least 10 hours one day calling EVERYWHERE in the country and Canada and had no luck finding a18 or 19" rims in 5x5 with 35-42 offsets.....

How spacers worked makes no sense (adapters that will change the bolt pattern will work, not spacers) and without pics I simply don't believe this one "guy" on the net that found the solution that dozens of wheel professionals couldn't. Why didn't you take up close pics to help out other board members?? This makes no sense at all. The boards are for sharring information, to learn and help whenever possible... What was your excuse AKA >>>> ?????

Do what I did. Get your tires Siped, and you will have at least some level of higher confidence if you get stuck in some inclement weather driving hazards.

http://www.sipers.com/sipers/index_large.asp
There's a link to point you to the nearest location where it's available.

I figured spending 48.00 at discount tires for siping was the least I could do until a better winter solution is available.

That looks interesting. I think I may just cave in and buy Pirelli snow and ice tires and mount them up for the winter.

I found the best solution, it's a little more expensive than spacers or new wheels, but so far it has worked perfectly.... move to the Caribbean!
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I'd miss my snow! I would be bored without it. Once we start getting some to stick to the ground I will get some fun videos. We had some light snow and ice last week and it wasn't that bad at all.

You and I are obviously having different experiences wit the Jeep in the rain. I've driven mine in the rain a ton and absolutely LOVE how it handles in the rain.

I agree. I think our rig does just fine in the rain.

Found this on the blue site. Thought it might help us here.

http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?p=39443#post39443

Found this on the blue site. Thought it might help us here.

http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?p=39443#post39443


Godfather,

I am not on that other page....but you may want to tell the snowtire guy from Denver that it is not his transfer case that is thumping...and its not broken....my understanding is it is the front wheels coming "into play" at around 20 mph.

I still hope they have a way of stopping this....doesnt seem right...

I'm looking into smaller rims and snowtires too.....I dont want to run those rims in sand and salt. They won't look as good with "pits"

please post picks of a solution!

Do what I did. Get your tires Siped, and you will have at least some level of higher confidence if you get stuck in some inclement weather driving hazards.

http://www.sipers.com/sipers/index_large.asp
There's a link to point you to the nearest location where it's available.

I figured spending 48.00 at discount tires for siping was the least I could do until a better winter solution is available.

I think this sounds good, but I have one question. If you sipe your wheels, won't that void the one year road hazard warranty? I've already had to have my tire plugged due to a screw inbedded into it, and if the warranty is voided, the next time I need a plug it will cost me $60-$70 out of pocket. Not to mention, if the damage is bad enough that it can't be plugged, I'll have to pay for a new tire. After the year warranty runs out, I might think of doing it though.

Do what I did. Get your tires Siped, and you will have at least some level of higher confidence if you get stuck in some inclement weather driving hazards.

http://www.sipers.com/sipers/index_large.asp
There's a link to point you to the nearest location where it's available.

I figured spending 48.00 at discount tires for siping was the least I could do until a better winter solution is available.

Can you please provide us an update on how this worked out for you?

For all those saying they don't understand how spacers would work:
they push the wheels out far enough that smaller rims don't have to clear the calipers.

Can you please provide us an update on how this worked out for you?


I have driven through a lot of RAIN around Pugent Sound area the last week. Lots of hill climbing, freeway driving, corners, stopping, WOT. All I can say is the only entertainment I get is just driving the Jeep like the Jeep it is with the same G force acceleration as I have in the dry. In the dry, going down into my complex's garage over concrete, I can hear the tires' tread. It kinda sounds like driving over something sticky.

And to have that extra margin of safety built in... If it does void a warantee, but it prevents an accident you can't put a price on that.

Well,the jeep does not handle well in the rain,and in the snow with 20's it is going to be an mess.So,I wanted to put on an 18" wheel with snow tires to combat the problem.I live in Nj and we can get smoe good snow up here


:confused: :confused: Doesn't handle well in the rain??! huh??!

Granted, it's not 'real' snow compared to what some of you see, but I drove in about 6 inches of snow last night and this morning. 22s, and Toyos and I did just fine.

I had my fun in the snow and ice the last 2 days. In the ice, the rear left seems to come out an inch and then it just goes straight during an acceleration on ice. I climbed up an icy hill with no problems. I went down the same icy hill and the abs kicked in, but I had no problems. Now I'm glad I had my tires siped.

:D :D

I'm glad that tire "siping" worked out for you ..

Ice? Snow? what are you guys talking about? All I know about is sand, driving on the beach is fun with such wide tires it's hard to get stuck.

Truth be told, when I lived in the states I had an Audi that I took ice racing and it was great practice to learn how to control the car. Pulling a one minute continuous all-wheel-drift isn't the fastest way around the track but it sure is fun. I recommend you guys try it out, the ones I went to were organized by BMWCCA.

I no longer have the videos but here's a picture to give you an idea:

http://thatspimp.com/ice.jpg
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I'm just curious?? What is this "winter" thing that you guys are talking about?? :)
you are sooo lucky to live in a warm climate, i hate you... just kidding

I'm reeeeeally curious as to what they come up with. I have spent, no kidding here, at least 10 hours one day calling EVERYWHERE in the country and Canada and had no luck finding a18 or 19" rims in 5x5 with 35-42 offsets.....

How spacers worked makes no sense (adapters that will change the bolt pattern will work, not spacers) and without pics I simply don't believe this one "guy" on the net that found the solution that dozens of wheel professionals couldn't. Why didn't you take up close pics to help out other board members?? This makes no sense at all. The boards are for sharring information, to learn and help whenever possible... What was your excuse AKA >>>> ?????
to the one who said it couldnt be done here it is !!!

to the one who said it couldnt be done here it is !!!
Here is what? Pics please.

here are the pics of the 17" used intrepid rims on the my jeep srt-8

I still don't believe you. Prove to us that those are 17" wheels because they sure don't look like 17" wheels to me.

those are definitely 17's. Look at the rear. its tiny! Dont look all that great but who gives a crap when youre able to save your 20" through the winter time. Nice find!

My point exactly, the fronts look larger than the rear..

My point exactly, the fronts look larger than the rear..


Oh Boo Hoo! :eek:

http://www.cars.com/carsapp/boston/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/features/2001overview/dodge/intrepid.tmpl

http://a137.g.akamai.net/n/137/3538/20001117223240/www.cars.com/features/2001overview/dodge/images

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The SE and ES models come with a standard 2.7-liter V-6 engine that generates 202 horsepower, and a 225-hp 3.2-liter V-6 is optional on the ES. A 242-hp 3.5-liter V-6 engine is exclusive to the R/T, which also has a stiffer suspension and 17-inch wheels and performance tires.

here are the pics of the 17" used intrepid rims on the my jeep srt-8
Ok what spacers did you use so the rest of us can do the same or is this just a joke. Ha Ha I figured it out and you did't

What size tires are those on the 17's?

would regular JGC wheels fit, like the 17x7.5 stock ones for the Limited/Laredo/Overland models?

also, any pics from the front/back so we could see if the rim sticks out further than the fenders?

would regular JGC wheels fit, like the 17x7.5 stock ones for the Limited/Laredo/Overland models?

also, any pics from the front/back so we could see if the rim sticks out further than the fenders?
i will take pictures and post them today but i assure you that tires and rims dont stick out any more than the originals

Ok what spacers did you use so the rest of us can do the same or is this just a joke. Ha Ha I figured it out and you did't
i dont know what kind of spacers they were but if you want the full details call paul at my tire shop and im sure he will be able to tell you everything here is the # 514-861-2051

would regular JGC wheels fit, like the 17x7.5 stock ones for the Limited/Laredo/Overland models?

also, any pics from the front/back so we could see if the rim sticks out further than the fenders?
here are the pics hope this helps sorry for the poor quality but i assure you the tires dont stick out anymore than the stock ones

I still don't believe you. Prove to us that those are 17" wheels because they sure don't look like 17" wheels to me.

Here you go TRAINER hope this satisfies your skepticism !!!

"AND NO IM NOT COMING TO SHOW YOU IN PERSON IF YOU STILL DON'T

BELIEVE "

by the way ,Creatine is made to be drank ! :cool:

I would like to know if everything runs well. I would do the same when I receive mine. I removed my 20' wheels off my 06 sport ram 1500 for the winter and replaced them with 17' toyo winter wheel and tire package. What a difference in grip compared to the stock tires I ran last winter.. I live in Sept-Iles along the north shore of Quebec and we get a lot of snow here. Anyway, if all this works out on your srt-8, I will do the same with mine when I receive it in January.

Here you go TRAINER hope this satisfies your skepticism !!!

"AND NO IM NOT COMING TO SHOW YOU IN PERSON IF YOU STILL DON'T

BELIEVE "

by the way ,Creatine is made to be drank ! :cool:

AKA thanks for your effort. I'm not sure what trainers problem is.
Did your tire guy provide you with the spacer?

i dont know what kind of spacers they were but if you want the full details call paul at my tire shop and im sure he will be able to tell you everything here is the # 514-861-2051
I did call and he told me what wheel he used on your jeep. I ordered one and will order a spacer just to have a spare tire as I won't put the run flats back as it rides so much better with normal tires. The 17 will be sort of a space saving spare compared to the wide 20s. Get the same diameter 17 and spacer then I will have a spare tire. Not perfect but will work, because now I can go over a speed bump without knocking my teeth out. Not really about the winter thing but the 275/40 20s snows on the stock wheels are such an improvement. Somewhat hard to tell the Jeep does not let anything slip no matter what the tire but it gos faster and stop faster. You really can't even hurt the snow tires as you just can't make any thing turn loose. This may ruin our fun but it also keeps us out of trouble as well.

I would like to know if everything runs well. I would do the same when I receive mine. I removed my 20' wheels off my 06 sport ram 1500 for the winter and replaced them with 17' toyo winter wheel and tire package. What a difference in grip compared to the stock tires I ran last winter.. I live in Sept-Iles along the north shore of Quebec and we get a lot of snow here. Anyway, if all this works out on your srt-8, I will do the same with mine when I receive it in January.
the only thing that i found that changed was the ride is way more comfertable and the tire monitor doesnt stop telling me my tires are low

from montreal quebec

AKA thanks for your effort. I'm not sure what trainers problem is.
Did your tire guy provide you with the spacer?
yes he had them in stock

got a call from my local wheel dealer (Montreal). I had asked them a month ago to keep an eye out for 18" winter wheels that would fit the GC SRT8. They emailed me back a couple of days ago that one of their suppliers (albawheels.com) just fitted one of their 18" wheels to the GC SRT8 w/o spacers. I'm ordering them with 4 Blizzak LM-25 winters, roughly 2K CAD$ installed/balanced.

Do I need to buy new sets of tire pressure sensors!!?

Should receive them 2nd week of January. Not bad, since there is still no snow in Montreal !!! I still can't believe it.

This style doesn't show up yet on their site:

4 x Blizzak LM-25 255/55R18's. diameter stays at 29", like stock.

yes, you should absolutely get pressure sensors for each rim you have. I found them on ebay brand new for something crazy like $15 each. For comparison I think the dealer price is close to $100 each.
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