Vredestein 315/35ZR20 and 275/40ZR20 Ultrac Sessanta SUV Tires, Y-rated to over 186 MPH. Overall impressions, very aggressive asymetrical directional tread.. .definately a SUMMER ONLY tire. For the price, they are extremely competative as compared to the more well-known brands, especially for the 315 series, which tends to jack up the price astronomically.

I'll continue this thread after they are installed and test driven; very interested to measure performance, ride, sound, and handling.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=635&size=1
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=634&size=1

BAAD azzz..Price Please

Under 800 shipped.

They look good. I am curious to see what kind of Grip they have compared to the Goodyears.

MMMMMMmmmmmmmmm......Meaty! You'll love the look it gives the jeep, the Toyos gave my jeep a different stance.

Those Are Bad Azz

those are sick!!

BJB's are on the way..

They are pretty sweet looking tires, and I know the Vette guys seem to really like them. I am looking forward to your review.

Very nice...and for the price you can't go wrong..

Me likey....and the $$$....awesome...:bandit:

Link please......Thx.

Me likey....and the $$$....awesome...:bandit:

Link please......Thx.

There is no link, only ZOOL.

I got the link over at the other site, Fair Mount Tire out of California. http://www.fairmounttire.com/

You need to do a google search to get a phone number, their website isn't the best, but their customer service is top notch, request Juan.

You cannot use them year round even in your weather?

ooooooooooooo babyyyyyyy

I can't wait to see them on the Jeep! Is the sidewall any wider?

T

Vredestein 315/35ZR20 and 275/40ZR20 Ultrac Sessanta SUV Tires, Y-rated to over 186 MPH. Overall impressions, very aggressive asymetrical directional tread.. .definately a SUMMER ONLY tire. For the price, they are extremely competative as compared to the more well-known brands, especially for the 315 series, which tends to jack up the price astronomically.

I'll continue this thread after they are installed and test driven; very interested to measure performance, ride, sound, and handling.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=635&size=1
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=634&size=1

Winston, Must have been one hellava envelope:D I bet the rears get torched real soon!

GC

Actually they weren't packaged at all, just sent AS IS with a shipping label slapped on each one.

Actually they weren't packaged at all, just sent AS IS with a shipping label slapped on each one.

Yeah, I was messin with ya!...Tire Rack ships the same way...2 to a bundle!

GC

you know I love 'em Winston, can't wait to see 'em on. . .haven't decided whether or not to pick them up for summer only. . . I wish baby formula cost less :cry:

Steve

In Florida (like here in S. Texas), you should be able to use them almost year round.

Definitely watching this thread! Those look sick! Can't wait to see them on.

Please post pics once mounted. And please keep us posted with your opinion of performance. I'm getting wider tires in just a couple of months, and have had my eye on these.....sweet choice, please keep us informed.
Chase

I would think I can run those year round in SoCal. Niiice choice. I have been considering these when I need to replace the rubber.

Yep...just waiting on your thoughts Winston! Nice buy!

Full peformance review please.... Specifically, launching, cornering, noise, vibration.

Those look sweet, but I always skeptical of non-major brand tires.

I was surprised by Kuhmo and Falken, so hopefully these will be similar.

Great find and looking forward to your review.

Swaaaaweeet! Looking forward to pics.

I most interested in drone....if any!

Yea, I'm looking for a better set of track tires.. and at 800 for 4 for them.. that would be sweet! Let us know :)

Looking forward to the installed pics and the updates on the ride and "gription" reviews. For replacing the stock tires, this is the set up I've been looking at, but haven't gotten enough visual info to get me over the hump. Also, there was one fellah who posted here in another thread who was talking about some vibrations and issues, t though those issues seemed unique to the install and his set and not a brand killer. I am not dissuaded and am thinking that this is the set up for me. Hurry up and get the installed and running on your ride.

Why are you running 35 tall in the rear and 40s up front? Why not run 35s up front also?

I was thinking about the Toyo Proxes, but these I like. :D

Why are you running 35 tall in the rear and 40s up front? Why not run 35s up front also?

Tires are sized in an aspect ratio. Link below for a better explanation than i could give.. Pretty simple once you get into it. It takes some mixing and matching to come out with the same overall height which is crucial in our application.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7

Tires are sized in an aspect ratio. Link below for a better explanation than i could give.. Pretty simple once you get into it. It takes some mixing and matching to come out with the same overall height which is crucial in our application.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7

What I'm asking is why not run a 35 tall front and rear?

What I'm asking is why not run a 35 tall front and rear?

35 is the aspect ratio of the width.
so a 275/35/20=27.6
A 275/40/20= 28.7
And a 315/35/20=28.7

See how the second 2 are IDENTICAL... thats what your looking for if possible on an AWD vehicle.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html Play around with that for a while also..

Yea, I'm looking for a better set of track tires.. and at 800 for 4 for them.. that would be sweet! Let us know :)

Nitto now has a DR for us ... something to consider ;)

Nitto now has a DR for us ... something to consider ;)

have them ordered but still not recieved.. will know more info tomorrow. Hopefully have them here soon

Drag Radials are great... but what do you want to break first, tire traction or an axel spline? I'll take a few tenths in the quarter to save a few grand in parts... at least for now.

35 is the aspect ratio of the width.
so a 275/35/20=27.6
A 275/40/20= 28.7
And a 315/35/20=28.7

See how the second 2 are IDENTICAL... thats what your looking for if possible on an AWD vehicle.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html Play around with that for a while also..

Ok cool. Thats what I was looking for. Didnt know you couldnt run a shorter side wall up front.

Thanks for the info.:)

Ok cool. Thats what I was looking for. Didnt know you couldnt run a shorter side wall up front.

Thanks for the info.:)

Hey no problem... and you can run a smaller up front.. but you will end up in the failed transmission or transfercase thread..

AirForce.... I dont think you're understanding whats going on here. The sidewalls are the same height... the second number in the tire dimension " 35 or 40" is not a dimension. Its a ratio.... a completely unitless scalar number...

The sidewall height on the staggered tires are the SAME HEIGHT. Becuase the width is different, the aspect ratio must also change to conserve the uniform sidewall height.

This is why it takes 3000 people ,in an air-conditioned hangar, on a 4000 acre airforce base somewhere in Nebraska, to maintain a single squadron of F-15s. But the Navy can maintain/fly/fight 105 aircraft, tossed around in rough seas, day/night, in weather, parked 12 miles off of a hostile coastline, on a floating hunk of steel 14000 miles from home.

:flamed:
:info-smilie::twak:

:popblood:

AirForce.... I dont think you're understanding whats going on here. The sidewalls are the same height... the second number in the tire dimension " 35 or 40" is not a dimension. Its a ratio.... a completely unitless scalar number...

The sidewall height on the staggered tires are the SAME HEIGHT. Becuase the width is different, the aspect ratio must also change to conserve the uniform sidewall height.

This is why it takes 3000 people ,in an air-conditioned hangar, on a 4000 acre airforce base somewhere in Nebraska, to maintain a single squadron of F-15s. But the Navy can maintain/fly/fight 105 aircraft, tossed around in rough seas, day/night, in weather, parked 12 miles off of a hostile coastline, on a floating hunk of steel 14000 miles from home.

Navy 1 Air Force 0

Totally uncalled for.

AirForce.... I dont think you're understanding whats going on here. The sidewalls are the same height... the second number in the tire dimension " 35 or 40" is not a dimension. Its a ratio.... a completely unitless scalar number...

The sidewall height on the staggered tires are the SAME HEIGHT. Becuase the width is different, the aspect ratio must also change to conserve the uniform sidewall height.

This is why it takes 3000 people ,in an air-conditioned hangar, on a 4000 acre airforce base somewhere in Nebraska, to maintain a single squadron of F-15s. But the Navy can maintain/fly/fight 105 aircraft, tossed around in rough seas, day/night, in weather, parked 12 miles off of a hostile coastline, on a floating hunk of steel 14000 miles from home.

Totally uncalled for.

. . . but totally friggin awesome . . . and funny . . .

. . . but totally friggin awesome . . . and funny . . .

+1 to that :simmadown::simmadown:

woow! beer! beer! that should simmer them down!

If it makes you feel any better AirForce I went through primary flight training in T-37's, Vance AFB, Enid, Oklahoma. Definately a professional bunch, regardless of how many tax dollars they sucked up to pay for flatscreens and beer :D

If it makes you feel any better AirForce I went through primary flight training in T-37's, Vance AFB, Enid, Oklahoma. Definately a professional bunch, regardless of how many tax dollars they sucked up to pay for flatscreens and beer :D

Sorry, didn't realize you guys were playing. All good.

The Vredestein's are ON! Too bad its a horrible looking day and the Jeep is FILTHY, I'll take some pics when the conditions merit. As far as ride goes, I only got up to 45mph, but the smoothness is noticable, very quiet and the grip is without equal.

Nice Winston, I will have to take a look at them next week. Let me know when you will be at the shop and I will drive over.

Jeepie is home for a few days for minor mods... Anybody know how to get the front Rotors off? I took the calipers off and the little O-ring around the Hub.. but they won't budge. I'm afraid if I hit it with a steel hammer it will damage the stock rotor.

Jeepie is home for a few days for minor mods... Anybody know how to get the front Rotors off? I took the calipers off and the little O-ring around the Hub.. but they won't budge. I'm afraid if I hit it with a steel hammer it will damage the stock rotor.

Haven't touched the brakes yet, but a rubber mallet is one of my favorite tools :bangin:

Nevermind, I figured it out... I just wansn't whapping it hard enough with my rubber mallot... You really gotta get some swing in there!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot:

FOR SALE, stock brake rotors, set of FOUR... 15K miles... $50 plus shipping.

If it makes you feel any better AirForce I went through primary flight training in T-37's, Vance AFB, Enid, Oklahoma. Definately a professional bunch, regardless of how many tax dollars they sucked up to pay for flatscreens and beer :D

So you are saying that it is a problem? I like Beer and flat screens.....


Besides, I would Love to see you land or take off a C-10 or C-5 on one of your precious hunks of metal boats....

Here in the airforce, we like to live good. And I believe they said that the Navy has more planes than the Airforce...We just use them better...:D:D:D

So you are saying that it is a problem? I like Beer and flat screens.....


Besides, I would Love to see you land or take off a C-10 or C-5 on one of your precious hunks of metal boats....

Here in the airforce, we like to live good. And I believe they said that the Navy has more planes than the Airforce...We just use them better...:D:D:D

About 30 years ago we DID land a cargo plane on the deck of a carrier just so those airforce bozos would shut the *** up.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/c130/carrier_02.jpg
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/c130/carrier_03.jpg

http://www.theaviationzone.com/art-bin/photos/c130_2.jpg
http://www.theaviationzone.com/art-bin/photos/c130_3.jpg

oh SNAP!

:popblood:

About 30 years ago we DID land a cargo plane on the deck of a carrier just so those airforce bozos would shut the *** up.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/c130/carrier_02.jpg
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/c130/carrier_03.jpg

http://www.theaviationzone.com/art-bin/photos/c130_2.jpg
http://www.theaviationzone.com/art-bin/photos/c130_3.jpg

Theres a BIG difference between a C-130 and a c-10, or C-5....

Wonder why you never did it again??????

:DSnap!!

messed up pic post.. proceed to next one. ha

I thought this was a tires thread... BTW navyavi how do you like your new tires? much drive time?

http://lh6.google.com/BriansSRT/R6CFsOodD7I/AAAAAAAAAqI/WyaWIr4luw4/s800/IMG_0077.jpg

pics mounted please!!!

Pics mounted are in another thread, search for Vredstein. They hook like glue, no complaints.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10944

AirForce.... I dont think you're understanding whats going on here. The sidewalls are the same height... the second number in the tire dimension " 35 or 40" is not a dimension. Its a ratio.... a completely unitless scalar number...

The sidewall height on the staggered tires are the SAME HEIGHT. Becuase the width is different, the aspect ratio must also change to conserve the uniform sidewall height.

This is why it takes 3000 people ,in an air-conditioned hangar, on a 4000 acre airforce base somewhere in Nebraska, to maintain a single squadron of F-15s. But the Navy can maintain/fly/fight 105 aircraft, tossed around in rough seas, day/night, in weather, parked 12 miles off of a hostile coastline, on a floating hunk of steel 14000 miles from home.

GO NAVY!!!