late, no traffic, so i goose it a bit on the belt goin east from the gowanus to the verrazzano bridge. nothing crazy, maybe got it up to 110 or so when my V1 indicates two laser alerts comin from the rear, in quick succession.

****.

i coast and scan the rearview, thinking of taking the first exit coming up (coney island) when i see the flashing red & blue. i take the exit and pull over, immediately shutting down the engine, turning on the cabin lights, hands on steering wheel - you know the drill.

nypd van pulls up behind me, and through its windshield i spot a couple of young guys. the driver's got this grin going on, and i immediately think to myself that i have a chance here.

a total of three officers approach me from all sides and ask me to roll all windows down, which i do immediately.

"are you late somewhere, did something happen?" asks the driver.

"no"

"testing out the new ride?"

i think for a second, and decide to be straight up.

"yes sir"

"you flew by pretty fast back there. license and registration."

i give them the stuff.

"how's your license, clean?"

"yes, it was until now"

"i'm gonna run your license and if it's clean you can go"

holy **** i'm relieved. in ny, anything 40 over the limit and if the officer feels like it, he can take your license on the spot and confiscate your car.

they run my papers and come back

"here. be careful, drive slower"

"thank you officer. did you get me with laser?"

"yes. you flew by and slowed down before i hit you, and even then got you at 105. slow down!"

"thank you officer"

that was that. i didn't know nypd had laser, this is the first i've seen of it. i thought i was safe in the city, but now it looks like i need to get the laser shifters. $900. ouch.

oh yeah, the point of this story - some cops can be pretty cool.

Congrats. However, I don't know how many people they plan on catching if they keep useing that van. :rolleyes:

whoa! that's awesome though. I guess the SRT gods were shining down on you.

Hahaha you lucky bastard.

Hahaha you lucky bastard.

4 years ago i was driving the same stretch of road..late at night.. in my '02 jeep laredo. no radar except my two eyes. going about 100 when i spotted a cop, stomped the brake.. but got lit up. was clocked 88 / 50, issued a summons, and the officer looked at me square in the face and told me that if he'd gotten me 2 mph faster, he'd have, with great pleasure, taken my license and towed the jeep.

some people just never learn.

Get a laser diffuser... life savers

So, since I am on my way to work and don't have time to look it up, can someone explain a laser diffuser to me! TIA!

Laser diffuser confuses or redirects the lasersignal momentarily, giving you a second or two tops to slow down before the cops get a bead on you. I have this and it did save my ass. But you only have a split second.

And these things run $900...WTF! How big is it and where is mounted?

having "been on the job", I can tell you that you handled it perfectly and of course got lucky!! FYI - NYPD (Highway Patrol Unit) has 6 SRT/8's in their fleet - the Chargers with the 6.1 hemi police package. Really cool chasers. They cover every major highway like the West Side and FDR, etc typically on 2nd and 3rd shifts - 4pm - 8am the next day.

Laser diffusers do more than just confuse the laser, they are active jammers and are a page right out of military electronic warfare. The chineese/russians were the first to invent the technology to defeat the Hellfire missile, which is a laser "beam rider" type missile.

Lasers operate similary to any other electromagnetic emitter. They have a carrier frequency which is generated that is the "root frequency" of the laser. However, in order to RANGE something, you can't have the emitter on continuosly, otherwise how would you know where the beam begins, and where it ends when you get the return signal back. The laser is actually turned ON and OFF extremely fast, for the purpose of this discussion we will call it the PULSE REPETITION FREQUENCY (PRF). The amount of time that each individual pulse is on is called the PULSE WIDTH (PW). In between the pulses is dead time, when the laser is off, and the receiver "listens" for a return. This all happens extremely fast (speed of light), so the amount of time the laser listens for a return is measured in microseconds, and so is the PW.

The way an active jammer works, either radar or laser, is that it detects the laser presence by its carrier frequency energy (police lasers are in the InfraRed band). It then begins to emit an infrared frequency identical to that of the police laser. The laser beam sends out a PW, and then turns off for a few microseconds to listen for it to bounce back. But with the Jammer on, it receives signal back continuously. The laser computer can't determine how much time it took for the return signal to get back to the gun becuase it is flooded with identical laser energy return. Without the "time" component, it can't compute distance. And becuase it can't compute change in that distance over a time period (again, in microseconds), it cannot compute relative velocity.

The laser is screwed, you win.

Unfortunately, there is a way to over come this, just wait until police laser guns start carrying pulse modulation.. in which the receiver only listens for a certain sequence of returns and disregards all other information... the technology already exists on military platforms, only a matter of time before the laser gun companies integrate it and laser diffusers :(

Hope this helps.

I guess I can see now why it would cost $900. I don't think I need that here in upstate NY...yet! Thanks for the info Winston!

Hijack: Is there such thing as succesful radar jammers?

i used to get pulled over there by the cops when i had my lightning.pulled me over almost once every 2 weeks,got to know them pretty good...lol. then the one time this big puerto rican dude was chasing me at 120mph to kill me, they were no where to be found,but thats a whole different story...lol
in nassau,my friend said he now has this thing where he can scan the whole expressway,all 3 lanes,and the computer tells him on every car whose license is expired,insurance lapsed,warrents,everything...he now pulls over 50 old ladies a day with insurance lapses because thier senile husbands havent paid the bill yet...lol

Scott

Hijack: Is there such thing as succesful radar jammers?

Yes, there were/are successful radar jammers. The problem is that the FCC put a ban on them. Even though states have laws against them, its a Federal crime to have one becuase you do not have an FCC license to operate anything generating radio waves. Good luck finding one, the market for them is antiquated and non-existent.

Holy smokes.... There is a lot of factually based knowledge here on Police speed detection equipment & techniques. Its a good to share this information because the bottom line is no one wants to get a ticket. Its also nice to hear a 'positive' rant about a police encounter that had a good outcome. Especially when that outcome could have been severely discomfortable and just as finacially painful. You handled that situation perfectly. The cop knew it & appreciated it. It goes to show not all cops are d*cks. A buddy of mine 'on the job', whom I have a lot of respect for, said this to me once........ For every one story you hear about a bad police officer - there are a thousand stories about the good police officers that you don't hear about.

Promo718....this is a good story. Glad it worked out for you.

and for some reason i keep running into the bad police officer instead of the thousand nice ones. dam

Wow! Cool story.

Not to hijack, but do the laser diffusors really work?

I have had a V1 for over 3 years and it has been a lifesaver, but I have never gone beyond that. I know the active systems are illegal but are you guys talking about active or passive laser jamming?

....a little objective support to navyavi469. From the sounds of it - he knows his $hit. I dont think it could have been said any better. Laser diffusors give you a couple of seconds to slow down. In that time, you can slow from 85 mph to 65 mph in no time - if you're hard on the brakes. From that stand point, laser diffusors work. But your speed can be aquired even if you have one. And there are other variables involved. For example - Is your aquired speed fast enough for the cop to want to stop you. Are there others around you speeding and or going faster than you. Am I -oops ......... I mean - Is the cop in the middle of a doughnut or not..... Who knows. I dont if the $900.00 is justified.

here's a seemingly objective test of laser shifters:

http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/laser-jammer-test.html

Thanks guys

I know that exact road you goosed it on and it is just way too tempting not to punch it. :D
Good Thing those cops were way cool

Wow...great info on the jammers. Thanks.

If one was to buy one of these $900 gizmos. What brands are recommended? I have the standard issue Escort Passport 9500 it sounds like it is obsolete at this point. :(

Thanks!

Rip

Don't confuse a laser diffuser with a radar jammer. Radar jammers are highly illegal and almost impossible to find.

We're talking about a laser diffuser, and in my opinion after a lot of research, the best one on the market right now is the Blinder XTREME with (4) sensor/jammer pods.

One day i was showing a bud how fast the jeep was. I just passed a cop and said "There can't be another one right around here." Boy was i wrong. I nailed it, went through a couple gears, came around a corner and BAM, there was another cop w/ somone else pulled over. He jumps out and flags me to pull over, pissed i might add.
Oh boy, this is not good. Long story short he asks me why the hell i was going so fast.
I was completely (ok, not totally) honest and told him that i just got the jeep and i WAS on it showing it to my friend and that he nailed me. Cop steps back and says, "So what year is this?"
At this point i suddenly have a glimore of hope. I tell him,"Its an 07 with 500miles on the clock." He comes back after a bit looks at the truck again and says "C'mon really, how fast were you going?" I said "Sir i really don't know. I was looking at the road and not the speedo, but i was certianly over the limit." He hands me back my liscense and says to "slow the hell down you haven't had a ticket in years, this is your lucky day!" I drove off ticket free....phew! By the way i was doing 90 in a 35....I know, i know. Not too smart...lucky though:rolleyes:

Don't confuse a laser diffuser with a radar jammer. Radar jammers are highly illegal and almost impossible to find.

We're talking about a laser diffuser, and in my opinion after a lot of research, the best one on the market right now is the Blinder XTREME with (4) sensor/jammer pods.

Actually the Laser Interceptor is BY FAR the best Laser jammer on the market today. It was developed in Europe, but is now sold in the US.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/laser-jammer-test.html

Bang Bang, I've heard that very same blurb about the Incercept a million times, its almost verbatim and its a sales pitch. There are some comparisons out there by independants, I encourge any buyers to do their own searching.

Bang Bang, I've heard that very same blurb about the Incercept a million times, its almost verbatim and its a sales pitch. There are some comparisons out there by independants, I encourge any buyers to do their own searching.

It is no way a "Sales pitch" by me. I have no vested interest in any laser jammer, but have done tons of research on the subject. I don't understand how my support of a product is a "Sales pitch" but your statement that "the best one on the market right now is the Blinder XTREME with (4) sensor/jammer pods." is not. :confused:
I plan on buying a jammer myself and at this point I plan on going with the LI. I am however waiting until the spring when Escort releases their new jammer and further tests can be done.

I read reports from independent people on forums like this:
http://www.radardetector.net/

I do agree that as with any product, you should do your own research before you make a decision.

You misunderstand, you're not trying to sell anything, I'm saying that

"the Laser Interceptor is BY FAR the best Laser jammer on the market today. It was developed in Europe, but is now sold in the US."

Is the exact same language that I've read online several times by vendors selling them, and when I called one of them, they told me the exact same thing... they're trying to pitch them as some sort of superior gucci product, as if the euros have some sort of superior laser experience that the lacking rest-of-the-world is without.


the comment wasn't directed at YOU.....