I'm waiting on my new '08 to arrive...as soon as I get it, I want to do the rear fog set-up to work with brakes/turn-lamps. I've been reading here that the '08's do not have the trailer harness at the rear? Can anyone confirm this? If so, how can I wire this arrangement up? I would imagine that the brake and turn lamps are wired separately, so how could you get this to operate with the single filament bulb in the rear fogs?
Any wiring experts out there??? Thanks.
T

I'm waiting on my new '08 to arrive...as soon as I get it, I want to do the rear fog set-up to work with brakes/turn-lamps. I've been reading here that the '08's do not have the trailer harness at the rear? Can anyone confirm this? If so, how can I wire this arrangement up? I would imagine that the brake and turn lamps are wired separately, so how could you get this to operate with the single filament bulb in the rear fogs?
Any wiring experts out there??? Thanks.
T
Ditto.... I would like to know the same thing... congrats on the "soon to arrive" beast!

wow, I don't know what to tell ya guys... I wired mine up to be break lights and turn signals... looks great... I think it makes the car..

That stinks if your cars do not have the harness... I wouldn't even know where to begin to tell you how to activate them? try asking the dealership and let them know when you connect a trailer ever, how do you get those lights activated since there is know female harness...? they minds well take off the lights if there is no harness... that makes no sense?

I did my 08 and you can only wire for brake or turn signals due to a single filament set up.If you do a search and type ...08 fogs now working ...you should find my post with a link for pics and how I did mine...Make sure you change bulbs too...I think it is a Sylvania part # 97 ...The OEM are brighter than tails so this bulb evens them out

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9168&highlight=fogs+working

Just wondering...maybe there's two easy ways around this for the '08 guys wanting BOTH the brake and turn signal lights:
1. Buy the factory wiring harness for the trailer and install it yourself. I can't imagine that it's much different than the '06-'07. It should plug n' play I would think. It just may be a pain in the *** to figure out how and where to route the harness through wherever it has to go.
OR,
2. Get a new socket that fits the rear fog lamp housing which allows a two filament bulb and has three wires coming out. Then just attach to the existing brake/turn signal wiring at the rear.

Any ideas or thoughts? Does any of this sound feasible?
T

leave it to jeep to make these cars cheaper and cheaper... these @$$ holes will do anything to cut the cost down by taking parts off these cars... I mean atleast put the light back under the hood of your car if you have engine problems at night... I will never buy an american car ever again... I have been loyal enough being this is my 3rd jeep and they give me trash in return... I only leased this car for the engine.. I feel I should get more for 1000 bucks a month.

Atleast my break wire up has both break lights and turns... I would hate it if it were just one or the other... i wouldnt know what to choose?

I'm thinking that it would probably be a lot easier to just find a 3 wire bulb socket that accepts a 2 filament bulb and will directly fit into the fog lamp housing. Then just run wires to the brake and turn signal wires and tap into them. Any one know what type or size of socket that the rear fogs are???

Anyone figure anything out yet on the '08 rear fog wiring problem ??

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9168&highlight=fogs+working

You Da Man!
:D

The "08 fogs now working" doesn't apply to many 08 owners....

Not sure how Billyboys 08 came with the wires in the fogs but mine didn't.....neither did most others like Tony Rags.....i have bulbs/base in my lenses....and there's no wiring hanging in the back to plug in

Basically i can put my hand under the rear and untwist the bulb out and walk away with it.....i need the plug and wiring too

Checked at the dealership and i can't buy the wiring seperately....

So that leaves me with 3 options

1. Find out what kind of wiring plug goes into my bulb base

2. Buy the plugs and wiring off a 06 or 07 owner who doesnt care to use their fogs

3. Snip some wires off a 06/07 on a dealer lot(never could but it's crossed my mind) as the fogs don't work anyways!

That's strange how some got it and some didn't...

Checked with a Hella lamp dealer after sending him digital pictures of the '08 sockets. No luck. He said that he can't get a plug or connector for that socket. He suggested trying a Jeep dealer in Europe where the rear fogs are hooked up......

Checked with a Hella lamp dealer after sending him digital pictures of the '08 sockets. No luck. He said that he can't get a plug or connector for that socket. He suggested trying a Jeep dealer in Europe where the rear fogs are hooked up......

Making progress bro...it really sucks that we're stuck without the option.....and what sucks more is there are 100's of people on here with the wiring an d NO intentions of EVER turning them on while we gon on this hunt....i'm guessing ur fogs look like mine....a freakin socket and base

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/Paulie23/IMG_0165.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/Paulie23/IMG_0166.jpg

If we went with a different bulb that fit, that already came with the plug/socket/harness....whatever you wanna calll it....would this solve our problem?

Anyone have a a part number for a aftermarket replacement bulb that you can get the plug with it??

If there any members out there with an '06, '07, or early '08 and don't need the blue connector plugs going into the rear fog lamp sockets, please contact me, I'd be willing to buy them! PM me if you want to sell them!
Thanks,
Tony

Ok going to ask a stupid question but...

Do other Grand Cherokees from 2006+ have rear fogs? Make the search for wiring much easier.

What happens if a 08 gets the sh*t rear ended out of it and the entire bumper is completely destroyed? SOMEHOW, I would imagine that a body shop would come across all the wiring etc?? I mean, wiring is destroyed alot in accidents. Maybe a reputable body shop could help you locate the wiring?

EDIT: Also, arent the connectors the same as the ones on the headlights? Or at least they look that way from the picture?

Ok going to ask a stupid question but...

Do other Grand Cherokees from 2006+ have rear fogs? Make the search for wiring much easier.

Our ONLY option is to buy the wiring off other members....you'ed have to buy the ENTIRE rear wiring harness including the tails and back up sensors too!

Our ONLY option is to buy the wiring off other members....you'ed have to buy the ENTIRE rear wiring harness including the tails and back up sensors too!

Yeah but if rear fogs are available on other Grand Cherokee models you can easily find a junked one and buy the harness for a reasonable price and use the additional wiring you need for our rear fogs.

What happens if a 08 gets the sh*t rear ended out of it and the entire bumper is completely destroyed? SOMEHOW, I would imagine that a body shop would come across all the wiring etc?? I mean, wiring is destroyed alot in accidents. Maybe a reputable body shop could help you locate the wiring?

EDIT: Also, arent the connectors the same as the ones on the headlights? Or at least they look that way from the picture?

Good suggestion...just tok my bulb out and compared with the front.....no luck....heres an attached close up and THOSE ARE NOT MY HANDS lol....my female partners at work:D

Tony i found a guy who's selling me his rear fog wiring harness....expect to pay a pretty penny for anybody to chop some wires off their truck but we both know it's work it!!! Hey we make up for it with stock HID's!

medic...couldnt this be solved by going with aftermarket bulbs?

medic...couldnt this be solved by going with aftermarket bulbs?

Nope.....it's not the bulbs it's the fact that there is no wiring to get POWER to the lights....

All avenues have been exhausted:
1. Hella doesn't have them here in America.
2. I'm not gonna buy the whole wiring harness just for those two connectors.
3. Can't find an aftermarket socket with pigtail wiring that will fit the lamp housing.

I'm left with two options:
1. Solder wires to the two leads in the socket and fill with silicone.
2. Find a member with a 2006-2007 whose not gonna use the rear fogs and is willing to sell me the connectors that will plug into my sockets.
ANYONE?????????? Thanks,
Tony

All avenues have been exhausted:
1. Hella doesn't have them here in America.
2. I'm not gonna buy the whole wiring harness just for those two connectors.
3. Can't find an aftermarket socket with pigtail wiring that will fit the lamp housing.

I'm left with two options:
1. Solder wires to the two leads in the socket and fill with silicone.
2. Find a member with a 2006-2007 whose not gonna use the rear fogs and is willing to sell me the connectors that will plug into my sockets.
ANYONE?????????? Thanks,
Tony



I just bought the rear wiring from another member for $100....well worth it IMO

I might not trust soldering and silicone in the elements......

You have one more option

Wear really DARK clothes......park far away.....go jogging...mysteriously trip by a dealer.....under an 06/07 Jeep.......somehow have some scissors ur pocket......snip*snip*............be gone..........bye bye

Kidding but damn it crossed my mind a few times!!! I'm a good boy tho and the easy route isn't always the best route :D

LOL, yeah, just what I need, I'll end up getting arrested for auto stripping! In any event, I just can't believe that these connectors are so hard to come by and that you have to buy the whole rear harness just for these connectors!
I'm not a fan of the soldering/silicone route either, but I figure as long as no one goes under there and hangs on the wires, it should hold if done right.
I'm running out of options and patience......:bangin:

I need a harness damn it

So i went to the dealer.......

There IS wiring for the rear fogs........(export only)...and no part number in the system....

Maybe a European dealer?

So there is hope of the seperate wiring it's just not here in the states......gotta hop some borders to get em looks like......or keep begging like i did....

Start a thread asnd offer $100.........you'll definitely get some bites......i sure did!

I'm working on installing some Hella 90mm projectors on my Z right now and I bought and assembled some H9 female to 9005/6 female connectors (so I wouldn't have to cut my factory harness).

If we found out what # the female connector is for the fogs I'm sure we could order the connectors and assemble harnesses ourselves for those who didn't mind just running a single filament.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/JJJ93Z/DSC04031.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/JJJ93Z/DSC04032.jpg

Susquehanna MotorSports is my supplier, if we can get that style number of the female connector I'm sure they can help us out.

Sinle filament allows you to use them as running only right? Or can you run them as brake/turns?

I'm working on installing some Hella 90mm projectors on my Z right now and I bought and assembled some H9 female to 9005/6 female connectors (so I wouldn't have to cut my factory harness).

If we found out what # the female connector is for the fogs I'm sure we could order the connectors and assemble harnesses ourselves for those who didn't mind just running a single filament.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/JJJ93Z/DSC04031.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/JJJ93Z/DSC04032.jpg

Susquehanna MotorSports is my supplier, if we can get that style number of the female connector I'm sure they can help us out.

Sinle filament allows you to use them as running only right? Or can you run them as brake/turns?

I am under the impression that single filament will allow one use, so brake, running, or turn.

Anyone know what type (number) of bulb the rear fogs are?

Does anyone know if I can use a double filament bulb in the rear fog socket/housing? The single filament bulb only has one metal tab and double filament has two metal tabs. The socket had a metal tab that looks like it may accept double filament bulb. Thoughts?

Check out my ****ty diagram.

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL753/3336469/18809535/303406391.jpg

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL753/3336469/18809535/303715432.jpg

Does anyone know if I can use a double filament bulb in the rear fog socket/housing? The single filament bulb only has one metal tab and double filament has two metal tabs. The socket had a metal tab that looks like it may accept double filament bulb. Thoughts?

Check out my ****ty diagram.

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL753/3336469/18809535/303406391.jpg

I haven't pulled the bulbs yet, but is that diagram of the dots supposed to show the base of the bulbs? like these? http://xchoppers.com/images/KY-4800.jpg

those are 1156 bulbs I think the Jeeps take a wedge style bulb like in your 3rd pic like these 3157s. But I could be wrong , I am just trying to decode your scematic! http://a763.g.akamai.net/7/763/1644/3/app.infopia.com/img/image/fp/VPID/4259875/size/225

Gentlemen, I might be able to get these harnesses. I live in Germany and the European SRT8's have them hooked up already. The dealer should know where to get them from. I will check in a few days. Holla back at me if I forget...

I just called and they do have the parts. The guys took my VIN and is getting a quote right now. The only thing that sucks...its going to be in EURO which is REALLY BAD against the $$ right now. I'll let ya know...

Bad news...! The European system is different and the guys said it can not be done with the U.S. one. Sorry fellas...lets hope someone gets off their @ss and makes a harness for us!!!

Bad news...! The European system is different and the guys said it can not be done with the U.S. one. Sorry fellas...lets hope someone gets off their @ss and makes a harness for us!!!

What seems to be different with the system? The actual harnesses? The method of wiring them up?

I have no idea. I was working with the language barrier. He knew what I was talking about so there is no reason for me to think he was making it up. Lights are one of the things that have to be changed if you want to take a european car back to the states. I will try to find out the reason behind it and get back with ya'll...

Yes the dots are supossed the be the base of the bulb. I have pulled them, I am for sure that they are dots and not wedge. The 3rd pic represents the socket where bulb goes in to. I will post pics soon.

I haven't pulled the bulbs yet, but is that diagram of the dots supposed to show the base of the bulbs? like these? http://xchoppers.com/images/KY-4800.jpg

those are 1156 bulbs I think the Jeeps take a wedge style bulb like in your 3rd pic like these 3157s. But I could be wrong , I am just trying to decode your scematic! http://a763.g.akamai.net/7/763/1644/3/app.infopia.com/img/image/fp/VPID/4259875/size/225

Ok so now that we have a pic. I am wondering if the double filament bulb, meaning two metal tabs on the bottom will fit in the socket. It looks like it will by looking at the metal tab in the socket.

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL753/3336469/18809535/303715432.jpg

It should fit right in there......

On another note, isnt there a vendor on here that sells a rear harness complete with double filament bulbs. I believe he sends you all the wiring and everything and its plug and play. Wouldn't that wiring work for you guys?

i hope the just pop in there. I dont need the wiring since i will be splicing into my trailer wiring harness.

It should fit right in there......

On another note, isnt there a vendor on here that sells a rear harness complete with double filament bulbs. I believe he sends you all the wiring and everything and its plug and play. Wouldn't that wiring work for you guys?

i hope the just pop in there. I dont need the wiring since i will be splicing into my trailer wiring harness.

Where is the trailer wiring harness located? Thanks.

It should fit right in there......

On another note, isnt there a vendor on here that sells a rear harness complete with double filament bulbs. I believe he sends you all the wiring and everything and its plug and play. Wouldn't that wiring work for you guys?

The guys sells the wiring needed to go front the existing wiring to the trailer hitch port....

08's have NO wiring so it's a NO GO.....

I purchased the Mopar GC SRT8 wiring harness kit from the dealer since i am running a hitch. I will be splicing into this.

Where is the trailer wiring harness located? Thanks.

I purchased the Mopar GC SRT8 wiring harness kit from the dealer since i am running a hitch. I will be splicing into this.


I see i see....

Check out my new thread

Has anyone checked if the socked from the front turn signal fits the rear fog light?
The front is a dual filament (3157) and if the socked fits all you need is the plug with a pigtail.

this may sound stupid and all like when i got my srt8 the fog lights were on now since i turn them off i dont no how to put them back on anyone can help me???

Just pull on the lever that twists to turn lights on

new 08 is here and i need to make these light work. whats the status on these?

new 08 is here and i need to make these light work. whats the status on these?

I got a quote from local auto electrician and it would be $150.
I decided to connect these on my own. This is a bit rough so if you are not handy and realize "dude I don't get it" just take it to the electrical shop and they would do it for you.
All the parts are at the local auto parts store. Take off the original plugs and take them in so they can match the dual filament bulb. Need about 16 ft of wire, 10 wire to wire connectors so there is no cutting of the original wires. Same electrical tape. And the most important part: conversion kit from single to dual filament bulbs ($2). You need to modify the original sockets so they would take dual fl. bulbs. Remove all the guts and drill a nice size hole in the middle of the plastic plug. Install the 1-2 conversion connector inside. File the dual bulb niple on one side since they dont fit the same way as the single filament. The rest is easy if you are handy. My lights work signal-turn-position like the originals. You dont need harness since this would be about $600 installed. I plug directly inside the rear lights. Hope this helps ;)