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: B&G PCM REFLASHES - Buy Price Special for the month of Sept 2006


Power Ported Performance
09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
As an authorized reseller for B&G, Power Ported Performance announces our B&G Special Pricing for the rest of September, 2006. Many of you may already be aware of the tremendous benefits of the B&G PCM re-Flash. As one of the first SRT-8 customers of B&G at the beginning of 2006, I have extensive experience with B&G. This is a must have mod for those that are looking for significant improvements in the over all drivability of your 5.7L or 6.1L vehicle.


Here is the information on the Stage 2 PCM Reflash:


6.1L REFLASH (STAGE 2) -Premium fuel (91-93 Octane) revised timing tables and fuel curve, Idle RPM set at 750, Rev limiter bumped to 6800 RPM, Best Torque Management Modifier available; firmer & quicker shifts (Automatic transmission only). Gains vary per vehicle.

RETAIL PRICE: $650.00

SPECIAL BUY PRICE: $615.00(Includes 2 day RETURN shipping. Shipping to B&G is not included and is the customer’s responsibility. Call for fee quotes for Overnight shipment options if needed)


5.7L PCM REFLASH -Premium Fuel Timing Curve, Idle RPM 750, Rev limiter bumped to 6800, MPH 140, MDS Off, Best Torque Management Modifier available; gains vary per vehicle

RETAIL PRICE: $450.00

SPECIAL BUY PRICE: $415.00(Includes 2 day RETURN shipping. Shipping to B&G is not included and is the customer’s responsibility. Call for fee quotes for Overnight shipment options if needed)



NOW FOR THE OFFICIAL DISCLAIMER:
B&G PCM Modifications are for OFF-ROAD use only, and are sold "as is" unless otherwise noted. You should check with your vehicle manufacturer for any warranty concerns before installing any PCM Upgrade. B&G Chrysler Specialists, Inc. and Power Ported Performance assume no responsibility for any warranty concerns due to the installation of the B&G PCM Upgrade. Additionally PCM upgrades may affect the emissions characteristics of the vehicle. If you install a PCM Upgrade and your vehicle consequently fails state or local I/M emissions test, including any test required to maintain or renew your vehicles registration, or if your vehicle is subject to a emissions recall, B&G Chrysler Specialists,Inc. and Power Ported Performance are not responsible, nor required to repair your vehicle, and you may be required to remove the PCM Upgrade at your own expense in order to obtain repairs necessary to pass the I/M test or to perform the recall.


NOW BACK TO THE GOOD STUFF...
There are many examples of comments from numerous customers. See below for some of the Forum posts from existing customers using the 6.1L REFLASH - STAGE 2:

“Idle still same. Car starts and feels same as stock. When you drive normal, you cant tell the flash is there. It behaves and acts just like a stock car. When you punch it or drive aggressively, things change. I have stopped turning off traction and doing WOT launches in manual mode on the street. Not safe, 1st gear acceleration is very strong, and i cant stay straight. Car chirps the tires going to second at WOT. Shifts are firm, feels absolutely great. You need to be careful when punching it at 20-25mph. Even with traction on and in auto mode, rear end breaks loose. No change in gas mileage.”

“Shifts are firm, crisp. It feels like the sport mode in amg cars, this is how the factory should have done it.”

“we have made so many runs with and without flash, with or without other stock and ported head srt8s, with and without bottled srt-8s, that we have all kinds of interesting data and duplicatable proof that the flash works. It is the only mod so far that has given me real track advantage.”

“Also, the flash gets rid of torque management, and the car no longer backs out at shiftpoints. With stock flash, the computer eases up timing and throttle a bit to make the shift smoother and easier on the tranny. This flash gets rid of it. Now at WOT, the car slams very nicely into the next gear with firm and crisp upshifts, sometimes chirping the tires when going from 1st to second. If you are NOT at WOT, it shifts just like stock flash, minus the nice slam, but with firm/crisp. You WILL have to learn to take it easy with this flash, even with my massive wheels it is VERY easy to break loose and go sideways, esp at 1st gear.”

“torque management is always gone. And I love it. That is probably the best thing about the flash, closely followed by 'full throttle at first gear'. ESP is on unless turned off.”

“flash works regardless and will lower your times, with ported heads or not. Ported heads lowered my time maybe by two tenths, flash lowered it another four tenths. My before/after dyno with porting showed the best gains in fourth gear, at the top end.”

“bone stock srt-8s down here run about 13.6 to 13.7 in this temp/humidity. Ported ones run about 13.3 to 13.5. And now we have two flashed/ported cars at 13.0, 12.9 very close. We have made at least 30+ passes this summer, and met up with at least 8-10 other local srt-8 owners with different combination of mods and different heads. We have been gathering all this data over the last 3 months and looking at track times and dyno numbers. I can confidently say that the flash will lower your time, with ported heads or not. When temp drops to 70s, we are sure we will easily run 12.7s, maybe mid 12s someday if temp goes down to 50s to 60s.”

In manual shifting, or first gear WOT on wet surfaces, the car will go into “Limp Mode” (trani disengaged; shut off car and restart will reset transmission) “All you have to do is make sure you shift by 6000, so it shifts at around 6400 and you are good. You go past 6500 it will go limp. Or you can just leave it at auto and it shifts on the dot at 6200.”

HOW TO PLACE AN ORDER:

Contact Power Ported Performance at (859) 816-1824 or via email at performance@powerported.com (performance@powerported.com).

Place your Order. You will then receive a Voucher to print out via email. All orders will be verified by B&G. You will then send out your PCM via the carrier of your choice. Place your PCM and the Voucher in the box and ship to address on your Voucher. Your PCM will be shipped out to B&G and then turned around usually the same day (weekends excluded). Additional shipping options are available for Overnight shipping. Call for fee quotes for any additional shipping options that may be required. You will need to provide Make, Model, Year and PCM Part # for the 5.7L vehicles.

radduc
09-07-2006, 10:21 AM
Has anyone in here purchased this item??I would love to get one but I need to know it's going to do the job.I have every mod out there except the Super charger and this thing needs a tune BADLY!!!

jerthehair
09-07-2006, 12:28 PM
I have the flash and had set of the pants results for about 3 days in my GC, after that went to the strip and ran 6 runs, back to back against a bone stock GC and ran within .01 of a second on average quicker. My truck has intake, exhaust,ported heads w/springs,ceramic coated and ported and gasket matched upper intake. Keep in mind the power and time gains they are quoting are not for the GC, but results from other SRT cars. The changes made are "felt", just not realized by the numbers.

mabosc223
09-07-2006, 12:35 PM
I have the flash and had set of the pants results for about 3 days in my GC, after that went to the strip and ran 6 runs, back to back against a bone stock GC and ran within .01 of a second on average quicker. My truck has intake, exhaust,ported heads w/springs,ceramic coated and ported and gasket matched upper intake. Keep in mind the power and time gains they are quoting are not for the GC, but results from other SRT cars. The changes made are "felt", just not realized by the numbers.

Hmmm, that worries me. For that money I'd rather have a hand held programmer where I can load custom tunes, or go back to stock. Man I love that Hypertech HyperPac, but I just don't forsee them releasing one anytime soon. Or any others for that sake, unless someone knows something that I don't. :confused:

radduc
09-07-2006, 12:40 PM
For a tenth of a second it's not doing a good job in my opion.If the Trani was tuned to run perfectly(which it is far from) you should get two tenths from that alone.I need something to unleash the beast that is inside of this.

mabosc223
09-07-2006, 12:42 PM
For a tenth of a second it's not doing a good job in my opion.If the Trani was tuned to run perfectly(which it is far from) you should get two tenths from that alone.I need something to unleash the beast that is inside of this.

I second that. . .

BLKltng
09-07-2006, 01:46 PM
I have the flash and had set of the pants results for about 3 days in my GC, after that went to the strip and ran 6 runs, back to back against a bone stock GC and ran within .01 of a second on average quicker. My truck has intake, exhaust,ported heads w/springs,ceramic coated and ported and gasket matched upper intake. Keep in mind the power and time gains they are quoting are not for the GC, but results from other SRT cars. The changes made are "felt", just not realized by the numbers.


Wow that really sucks. You have $3500 spent in performance parts not including labor to pull the heads and you ran basically the same exact time as a stock srt GC back to back 6 times. If that ain't money well spent, I don't know what is. N O T!:rolleyes:

It seems like all this crap is a waste other than a super charger.

larryc7777
09-07-2006, 03:57 PM
Uhhh guys, .01 isn't a tenth of a second......it's a hundreth of a second. I would have B&G on the phone if I were you & be chewwing somebody a new a$$hole. Those mods should be worth AT LEAST 5 tenths in the quarter & 10 mph over a stock vehicle.

jerthehair
09-07-2006, 05:43 PM
I have had many discussions with the vendors that I got the add ons from and everyone has a different story about why I have seen 0 gains. The heads are to large, the tune is not custom, we run 300+ dyno runs and all show gains on the dyno. The truth is is that every vendor wants to sell there product and will take general gains from other cars (Chargers, 300 SRTs) and blanket claim that there was a benefit, its all bull****.

The straight foward logic says that mechanic part swaps should show gains, electrical parts are still controlling everything. The old story of more spark,air and fuel gets bigger, stronger bangs doesn't work any more.

As for chewing out someones ass, its piontless because I cannot eat that much ****. No vendors want to admit they have no clue what will definitively work for GC's and what will not.

larryc7777
09-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Well, that's sure your privilege to follow that course of action, but I would be pissed. The vendors misrepresented the power output of their product. I'm not sure, but I think that is illegal. You have invested a considerable amount of money in modifications that were supposed to increase your HP/TQ by some advertised amount. That increase SHOULD be easily seen at the dragstrip....especially when compared to a BONE STOCK vehicle of the same make & model as yours on the exact same day.

Of course, you can do whatever you wish, but I'm afraid that I wouldn't be as forgiving.

radduc
09-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Guy's I have to hand it to the SRT team,they did quite a job on getting MAX HP from this engine.I really believe that no one should spend any more money on mods for the jeep until someone comes out with a hand held tunner product.I have had just about everything done to my jeep and to be totally honest the only mods that make a real difference are the GSM CAI,and the KooK's headers.The esp/fan mod is a good thing because you can basicly control the temp of the jeep and have some fun with the tracton control off.I am just trying to save you guy's some $The key to this motor is tuning it.Obvioulsy if you purchase the supercharge you will get real HP.Knowing what I know now,I would have just gotten the supercharger and the CAI that would make a world of difference and I don't think you could do much more to this motor that would get you more HP than the supercharger.That being said,sit on your wallet and be patient or go out and buy the Supercharger

larryc7777
09-07-2006, 07:09 PM
Guy's I have to hand it to the SRT team,they did quite a job on getting MAX HP from this engine.I really believe that no one should spend any more money on mods for the jeep until someone comes out with a hand held tunner product.I have had just about everything done to my jeep and to be totally honest the only mods that make a real difference are the GSM CAI,and the KooK's headers.The esp/fan mod is a good thing because you can basicly control the temp of the jeep and have some fun with the tracton control off.I am just trying to save you guy's some $The key to this motor is tuning it.Obvioulsy if you purchase the supercharge you will get real HP.Knowing what I know now,I would have just gotten the supercharger and the CAI that would make a world of difference and I don't think you could do much more to this motor that would get you more HP than the supercharger.That being said,sit on your wallet and be patient or go out and buy the Supercharger

I totally agree with your accessment of the need for a GOOD PCM programmer. However, I still feel that vendors should not be allowed to advertise power increases without being able to support those claims. AND, if they are shown to be selling parts that do nothing, they SHOULD be badgered into making the situation right....even if that means putting the vehicle back to the condition that it was before their part went on AND refunding the money spent on the bogus modifications. They need our business and should be expected to supply value for money spent.

srt8suv
09-09-2006, 02:19 PM
the supercharger is NOT out yet!! and there is NO such mods that you can put on the truck besides, Headers,Heads, CAT-back, CAI, ESP mode, NOS.
I heard that many people pre-order the thing last may, and they didnt get it up to date.

Plus the Re-flash is something nice "i think" but i dont like the thing when it goes to getting my PCM back to stock basis, the process is a long story.

We all would agree if its good or not, whenever we see a real experience from someone who is with us in the forum. some1 who tested it and showed us some figures/numbers:)