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STS makes a bolt-on kit for our Jeeps.
Yea I know about the STS KIT but I want one under the hood similar to stage6 kit. Sts kit deals with a oil return pump that im not to crazy about.
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Good luck. As a non-baller myself I applaud your effort.
But....

As has been shown time and again in myriad builds, throwing
A turbo kit (single, twin ) is a big deal to the jeep as a vehicle.

Even if they kit was "cheap" for let's say 7g. You still need supporting mods to make it worthwhile. A tranny/torque convertor is a given, fuel system
Will be needed to upgraded. And the motor will be under a great deal of stress
And statistically will go at some point.

By that time you re well into five figures and that is a bare bones
Set uP.

Also, no two jeeps are identical and the tolerances are so tight up front
That a kit thAt fits perfectly on one jeep may be way off on another .

I have seen this first hand. This also makes it hard to jig the kit.

Turbos for the jeep are more involved than making a catback for a mustang.

Choice of turbo and motor size can also affect piping size and routing.


I could go on but the bottom line is that it s not easy. This is why stage 6/ttc/kms fab each kit in house on the vehicle. There are a few exceptions but it's tricky.

Do a kit on yours and show us the goods. If it s all you claim it could be you ll have a lot of business.


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7k is a good deal for any full kit IMO ... when you factor in just how many parts go into one of these kits, then add the R&D im surprised these things dont go for more.
yeah 7 grand really isnt bad for a turbo "kit"


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Wow! what a great read that thread was LOL!!
that thread was quite hilarious actually. some good info tho


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Good luck. As a non-baller myself I applaud your effort.
But....

As has been shown time and again in myriad builds, throwing
A turbo kit (single, twin ) is a big deal to the jeep as a vehicle.

Even if they kit was "cheap" for let's say 7g. You still need supporting mods to make it worthwhile. A tranny/torque convertor is a given, fuel system
Will be needed to upgraded. And the motor will be under a great deal of stress
And statistically will go at some point.

By that time you re well into five figures and that is a bare bones
Set uP.

Also, no two jeeps are identical and the tolerances are so tight up front
That a kit thAt fits perfectly on one jeep may be way off on another .

I have seen this first hand. This also makes it hard to jig the kit.

Turbos for the jeep are more involved than making a catback for a mustang.

Choice of turbo and motor size can also affect piping size and routing.


I could go on but the bottom line is that it s not easy. This is why stage 6/ttc/kms fab each kit in house on the vehicle. There are a few exceptions but it's tricky.

Do a kit on yours and show us the goods. If it s all you claim it could be you ll have a lot of business.
if you have good connections with an exhaust shop, and some know how on fuel systems you can fabricate a decent 550AWHP turbo kit for 4-5K. It seems that things start breaking at the 600hp mark. That being said, the great thing about a turbo is you can turn the turbo down almost back to stock HP and not worry about breaking the tranny or Tcase. a BIG reason i plan to go with a turbo. I like being able to adjust the power according to whats needed. it IS possible, and it is also a huge Pain in the A$$ if you are doing it from scratch. The good thing with stage 6 and TTcreations, they've done it before many times. they know what they're doing. they know what problems they will run into, they know how to fix those problems. so to have them install the kit for 10K with 750HP potential and you not have to worry about ANYTHING, i'ts really worth the price tag.

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Good luck. As a non-baller myself I applaud your effort.
But....

As has been shown time and again in myriad builds, throwing
A turbo kit (single, twin ) is a big deal to the jeep as a vehicle.

Even if they kit was "cheap" for let's say 7g. You still need supporting mods to make it worthwhile. A tranny/torque convertor is a given, fuel system
Will be needed to upgraded. And the motor will be under a great deal of stress
And statistically will go at some point.

By that time you re well into five figures and that is a bare bones
Set uP.

Also, no two jeeps are identical and the tolerances are so tight up front
That a kit thAt fits perfectly on one jeep may be way off on another .

I have seen this first hand. This also makes it hard to jig the kit.

Turbos for the jeep are more involved than making a catback for a mustang.

Choice of turbo and motor size can also affect piping size and routing.


I could go on but the bottom line is that it s not easy. This is why stage 6/ttc/kms fab each kit in house on the vehicle. There are a few exceptions but it's tricky.

Do a kit on yours and show us the goods. If it s all you claim it could be you ll have a lot of business.


I understand that not all vehicles are alike but if Perrin can make bolt on rotated turbo kits for my Wrx Sti then we can make one for our Srt's. People still have to understand that even though companies call bolt on kits, BOLT ON. Its never the case. Their is always some slight modifications people would have to do. At least thats what I found out with my Sti.
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if you have good connections with an exhaust shop, and some know how on fuel systems you can fabricate a decent 550AWHP turbo kit for 4-5K. It seems that things start breaking at the 600hp mark. That being said, the great thing about a turbo is you can turn the turbo down almost back to stock HP and not worry about breaking the tranny or Tcase. a BIG reason i plan to go with a turbo. I like being able to adjust the power according to whats needed. it IS possible, and it is also a huge Pain in the A$$ if you are doing it from scratch. The good thing with stage 6 and TTcreations, they've done it before many times. they know what they're doing. they know what problems they will run into, they know how to fix those problems. so to have them install the kit for 10K with 750HP potential and you not have to worry about ANYTHING, i'ts really worth the price tag.
Exhaust shops is the last place you want making your piping. They bend the pipes. Unless they have a mandrel bender, I'd stay away. Bending pipes puts creases in the pipes which causes restrictions and turbulence. Mandrel bent pipes are the only pipes that should be used.
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very true! And actually in this little crap town of ours... my buddy's shop actually has the only one. I take all my stuff to him. Op... LISTEN TO THIS GUY!!!!^^^^

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Exhaust shops is the last place you want making your piping. They bend the pipes. Unless they have a mandrel bender, I'd stay away. Bending pipes puts creases in the pipes which causes restrictions and turbulence. Mandrel bent pipes are the only pipes that should be used.
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If your willing to spend 7k on a kit, why not spend a couple grand more on a kit thats installed and tuned? I believe the base kit from stage 6 is 8999 installed....

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Exhaust shops is the last place you want making your piping. They bend the pipes. Unless they have a mandrel bender, I'd stay away. Bending pipes puts creases in the pipes which causes restrictions and turbulence. Mandrel bent pipes are the only pipes that should be used.

Mandrel bends for sure , still deciding if im going with a PT7675 CEA or a Garret 42RS :/ might also go with a PT6768 cea.
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If your willing to spend 7k on a kit, why not spend a couple grand more on a kit thats installed and tuned? I believe the base kit from stage 6 is 8999 installed....

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Im planning kn spending way less than 7k. The most expensive parts of a turbo kit are the turbo, wg, bov, and injectors. Now the question is when are you coming to CA to tune my rig when its done? hahaha
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Im planning kn spending way less than 7k. The most expensive parts of a turbo kit are the turbo, wg, bov, and injectors. Now the question is when are you coming to CA to tune my rig when its done? hahaha
No, the most expensive is the built Nag1 transmission

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