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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 03:54 PM
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Seems like Consumer Reports researched it with some positive data:

Jeep Grand Cherokee survives different European "moose test"
Aug 1, 2012 11:00 AM

Several weeks ago, the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld revealed that the Jeep Grand Cherokee failed their "moose test" avoidance maneuver, going up on two wheels. But recent testing by another European magazine got a different result.

The German magazine Auto Motor und Sport (AMS) used the same Grand Cherokee Overland CRD press vehicle as did the Swedes. However, their "moose test" differed slightly from the Swedish test; the German magazine used an ISO (International Standards Organization) test. AMS tested the Jeep at an Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil-Club (ADAC) test facility, a well-regarded automotive testing organization. Unlike the results of the Swedish test, the Jeep remained secure in the AMS test; it did not go up on two wheels or debead tires.

Note that there are many variables here. AMS ran a different test with a different driver on a different surface on a different day compared to the Swedes. Any of these variables could result in different results than the Swedish test.

Consumer Reports has previously taken issue with Grand Cherokee handling. In our double-lane-change avoidance maneuver, a 2011 model skidded and hopped sideways on several runs (see video). A V8 version we tested later didn't exhibit that problem.

Chrysler developed a fix, and we had our V6 Grand Cherokee reflashed with the software update. In repeating our emergency avoidance-maneuver tests, the Jeep performed much better, managing a top speed of 50 mph through the course. That's pretty good for a beefy SUV, but, more importantly, it behaved predictably when pushed up to and past its limits, instilling a lot more driver confidence. (Read: "Chrysler fixes 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee handling problem.")

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As refined and car-like as SUVs have become, it's important to remember that they still handle differently than cars. Electronic stability control has made these vehicles much safer, but it can't totally erase the laws of physics. That's especially true for those capable of going off-road, like the Grand Cherokee. And given that the two-wheel lift in the Swedish test occurred when the vehicle was overloaded, it should serve as a reminder that drivers should make sure that they stay within the payload limitations of their vehicle, regardless of the make or model.
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The internet never lies! I'm glad you did enough research to figure out that the Swedish test overloaded the Jeep. They put more weight than almost any normal person could possibly stuff in the SUV. If there was really an issue, you would have heard about it a long time ago. It died down because it was debunked. Nice work!

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The Moose test is Dam Scary Wow!!!! Real Deal Breaker for Many!!

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The Moose test is Dam Scary Wow!!!! Real Deal Breaker for Many!!

Really?? The test was rigged. Don't drink the Swedish cool aid.

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People really need to do some simple googling before posting troll threads like this...takes a few simple minutes to find that the test was invalid because the trucks capacity was exceeded and when Chrysler sent their engineers to replicate the results after numerous tests it was not achieved...
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I think I should do a "camel test" here in Dubai with my wk2

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Fist of all, none of this really matters, what matters is the wk2 srt8 was just compared to a diesel!!!

Diesel engines have massively higher centres of gravity and respond very differently due to the inline nature of them as well. The crd on top of that sits 1" higher on softer suspension with smaller anti roll bars.

Then of course there's how the test was done with overloading them. There's a reason cars have payloads, so you don't break or damage things (end result being the occupant)

You're comparing an apple to an orange with the crd vs the srt. They may be from the same company, but are drastically different.

If the roll over problem carried over to the srt, I would have rolled mine by now, and people wouldn't be doing track days in them.

Hope that puts your mind at ease.
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A report stated that the air suspension was partly to blame. The SRT8 does not have air sprung suspension!

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