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The republican party just needs an african american female vp and were set for 2016. Lets get those votes!!
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I was watching fox news and they were talking about 2016 who they have to pick from to run for pres and Jeb Bush was mentioned. 2 Bushes were enough lol. I bet Chris Christie will be there top runner.
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Here is my two cents... I have been in the Army going on 13 years. The traditions we once had are slowly being washed away with policies that do not benefit our mission. This nation chooses to have a standing military. Well that takes a lot of money and attention! I do agree we need to shrink the force but by only getting rid of those who don't perform. Just like in our society the military suffers from those who think they deserve crap without working for it. Pay close attention over the next four years and you will see us take more hits on our benefits and budget. The quality of our leadership (both military and civilian) is something needing vast improvement and fast. I plan to stick it out for now because I love being in the Army and I love what this country is supposed to stand for. Honestly I think both candidates leave something to be desired. Looking forward to 2016.
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I dont get it.

It seems most wished Romney had won-Texas clearly voted for him.

Obama won without Texas...

Tell you what, you be the first to try.
I voted for Romney and so did my wife. Texas is a republican state. Click image for larger version

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I guess I should have said "most in this thread wanted Romney to win".
I know Texas is a Republican state and yet, Obama won anyways. I dont get his post...
Texas is a republican state but it is states like NY and Ca that have a major pull towards the liberal side of things. Ca has 55 electoral votes for heavens sake, opposed to I believe 38 in Texas.


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I would love to see an accurate study of how the African American community (as a whole) has progressed or digressed from day one of Obama to his last day in office in just over 4 yrs (or any group that has a large percentage living in poverty or receiving government aid). I use the African American community as an example as most of them view him as a president that is more representative of them and that he is going to be active in correcting the financial equality that are perceived to exist. That gives him 8yrs to make something happen.

If there has been a significant move to self sufficiency and a moved up in economic status or if they have just remained stagnate or even digressed backward with more hands out.

Also how the country as a whole has moved "forward" or backwards in personal economic standing. Have more fallen out of the middle class than have been added to it and that goes for the "wealth class" as well.

My guess as to how it would come out is that the country as a whole will have digressed much further than any one group will progress and that is being very optimistic.

In other words has redistribution really worked? Can the government actually make a more even playing field and bring wealth and stability to the nation as a whole or will everyone be brought down in order for things to be "fair".

I know that it is more about buying votes and not economic progress but it might sway a few of the guilty that believe that the rich must pay and this will some how elevate the poor to a more level playing field.

You can take a fish from a fisherman and give it to someone in need and feed them for a day but if you teach them how to work hard and to fish for themselves you will give them a far greater gift.

Eventually the fisherman will grow weary of working for others benefits and seeing his hard work given to those that do nothing or very little.

I have always lived in a middle class neighborhood: lower, middle and upper. I have also had a lot of exposure to poverty and wealth. I have seen real poverty as it exists in third world countrys. I cant conceive that someone would not want to work as I do and have the opportunity that exist for me because of that. They would rather take the scraps that the government hands out to exist at a poverty level and never move beyond it.

PS I do understand that there are exceptions and some people NEED help. But we should not strive and work (IMO) to create a whole sector of the populations that learns to live on this government hand out.


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